Who is better by you ?
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they're probably about the same..
as in, i wouldn't switch to mac based purely on SU related differences.[well, I might but i wouldn't recommend that to others
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There are a few things that bugged me about SU on a Mac - the first one was that you can't hold shift and use the scroll wheel.
BUT, a PC does not have transparent .png export support.
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@chris fullmer said:
There are a few things that bugged me about SU on a Mac - the first one was that you can't hold shift and use the scroll wheel.
that Right
@chris fullmer said:
BUT, a PC does not have transparent .png export support.
I do not agree with in this
I have sktchup pro it is transparent png maybe you do not use sktchup prothank you to your Opinion
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SU isn't the sole factor for me deciding on an OS. Then again, I have Windows, OSX and Ubuntu. But Windows is my main because it's where I can run most of the apps I use and the games I play. Plus a good selection of hardware for a decent price.
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@chris fullmer said:
There are a few things that bugged me about SU on a Mac - the first one was that you can't hold shift and use the scroll wheel
what happens when you do that?
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You don't know? Holding shift while using the scroll allows PC users to engage or disengage 64bit mode. It's to make up for not having transparencies. Are you able to UV Map on macs yet? We can since v3.
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@unknownuser said:
You don't know? Holding shift while using the scroll allows PC users to engage or disengage 64bit mode. It's to make up for not having transparencies. Are you able to UV Map on macs yet? We can since v3.
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@thomthom said:
SU isn't the sole factor for me deciding on an OS. Then again, I have Windows, OSX and Ubuntu. But Windows is my main because it's where I can run most of the apps I use and the games I play. Plus a good selection of hardware for a decent price.
that is right Windows it More programs and games support the OS of windows.
I used Google SU in Mac pro it is very good with my Friend ( he is Architect ).
Has become a heated debate between us to Google SU Mac and Win
but I see Google Mac.
Sudden falls can there be non-existent in Mac .
this is my personal opinion.
I wish some bady Disagree with me opinion even Become clearer ideas of all. -
The thing is - there is no universal answer for what OS is best. It's completely subjective depending on ones needs.
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@thomthom said:
The thing is - there is no universal answer for what OS is best. It's completely subjective depending on ones needs.
yeah that right I see
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@unknownuser said:
You don't know? Holding shift while using the scroll allows PC users to engage or disengage 64bit mode. It's to make up for not having transparencies. Are you able to UV Map on macs yet? We can since v3.
I always thought it was the cause of "Hyperzoom" so I never use it anymore.
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I have used a Mac and a Windows PC, so the right answer must be Linux because I know almost nothing about it, and I have never seen an "I hate Linux" forum post...
Anssi
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@thomthom said:
The thing is - there is no universal answer for what OS is best. It's completely subjective depending on ones needs.
Thank you for that, you have nailed it on the head. So this whole one is better than the other is a bit pointless.
Use whatever makes you more comfortable. It is entirely up to ones choice.
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Apple is fashionable hardware, and apple dependent OS. MS is any pc OS, software, and virtual product oriented. Impossible to compare the two. Hmm......, and I can say that without bias>_<, really
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@honoluludesktop said:
Apple is fashionable hardware, and apple dependent OS. MS is any pc OS, software, and virtual product oriented. Impossible to compare the two. Hmm......, and I can say that without bias>_<, really
i don't really get what you're saying.. apple basically uses the same hardware as everyone else..
is this laptop a mac or pc?
Intel Core i7 2.66 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Hitachi HTS545050B9SA02 (HD)
MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-898
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@unknownuser said:
@honoluludesktop said:
Apple is fashionable hardware, and apple dependent OS. MS is any pc OS, software, and virtual product oriented. Impossible to compare the two. Hmm......, and I can say that without bias>_<, really
i don't really get what you're saying.. apple basically uses the same hardware as everyone else..
Apple used to be very different in CPU and architecture. They went for the "snazzy" display capabilities over compute power from the get-go. Also Motorola chips were cheaper than INTEL.
When they realized a few years back that their choice was becoming a dead end for common USER WANTED/NEEDED software apps. (Read PC based) and the Apple world of apps developers were not going to catch up, as well as the price of "Apple only" components going up due to a closed, smaller demand pool, they bit the bullet and went INTEL INSIDE. They cleverly (their true forte) made a PC architecture behave like a Mac as well as a PC, the best of both worlds, but are still market hamstrung by the cost of doing so.
As for Linux/Unix becoming a true force for real world O/S, that can never really happen. You cannot design really good apps that depend on a "consistent" open source O/S, because Linux is not a consistent open source O/S. Windows and MacOS are closed for that reason. Linux/Unix have their real advantage in many areas that Win & Mac fail at or are sub-performing, as do other O/S's. Unless they ALL behave exactly the same way to any app, developers will chose the best O/S for the application and market potential. There is yet to be a truly universal app development language, so choices must be made, or dev.costs will be unreasonable.
Just look at SU as an example of an open source O/S, and the plethora of mostly useful Ruby scripts (apps) available. Some are very well written, others not so much. Some interfere with each other. Some deftly enhance certain SU features, but that enhancement is not transferred to other scripts that depend on that SU feature. That is life with open source S/W. Yes the same will happen with closed source, but the cross testing that goes on to approve an app is way more extensive than what open source can deliver. It is rare that any app will interfere with some other app.
And then, you have the problem with hardware drivers. Nuf said on that.
You pick your hardware and O/S and apps to do the job(s) you want to do.
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Hi folks.
I use SU on both platforms, PC and Windows at work and Mac and OS X at home.
Both perform well and I can use the exact same functions with the mouse, I assigned my Mac mouse center button as button number 3. That is, I press the SHIFT key and press the scroll wheel to engage the Pan function, I use the scroll whell to Zoom, press it to Orbit, etc.
The only difference is that, on the PC, the DOT key on my numerical keypad will not generate the required comma that I use as the decimal separator while it works perfectly on my Mac. The funny part (if I can use the word funny for something that really bugs me; some irony here) is that on both, the Mac and the PC, the DOT key on the numerical keypad generates the comma when I use Excel. Go figure !!!
Since my home uses include checking E-Mail, listening to music, achiving my photos, editing video and, of course, using SU, the Mac remains my prefered choice for its really good integration of software and hardware. Plus, my iMac 24", with wireless keyboard and wireless mouse is aesthetically pleasing and provides me with a screen having a real good quality.
Just ideas.
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@jean lemire said:
Hi folks.
The only difference is that, on the PC, the DOT key on my numerical keypad will not generate the required comma that I use as the decimal separator while it works perfectly on my Mac. The funny part is that on both, the Mac and the PC, the DOT key on the numerical keypad generates the comma when I use Excel. Go figure !!!
Just ideas.
Simple, really. The Mac and Excel can be/are configured for either French or French Canadian keyboards. The Mac (I believe) has a universal config for all apps, while the PC is normally app specific. SU has no such config setting that I'm aware of. And I'm not sure if a North American version of Windows has such a universal setting, never tried to find it, coming from the left side of Montreal.
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@unknownuser said:
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i don't really get what you're saying.. apple basically uses the same hardware as everyone else..is this laptop a mac or pc?
Intel Core i7 2.66 GHz
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etc..If OSX is installed it's a Mac, otherwise it's a PC. You are right of course, Apple is candy wrapper, and I do not mean that badly. I wear Ferragamo shoes too. I suppose that if they let you, OSX would run on any other PC, but they don't. I tried to write the above "tongue in cheek"-), doing my best not to sound too serious. MS's emphasis in not on selling their pcs, they don't have any. IMO, it's not even on individual pc apps., but about large server networks, and related products like sharepoint, etc. They even give away virtual machine technology, programing languages, and tools for stand alone, and small networking systems.
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@honoluludesktop said:
Apple is candy wrapper, and I do not mean that badly. I wear Ferragamo shoes too.
i dunno, i think it goes a bit beyond just making the things look fancy.. the unibody design of their laptops can't be beat.. literally, take a solid chunk of aluminum and carve out the innards. they're not just candy wrapped, they're light and durable with attention to detail candy wrappings
i honestly think if you walked in your honolulu apple store(s) and picked one up that you'd be impressed with the design..
[wether or not you'd like OSX, well, that's a different story
]and hey, you even get a little feel good music/soft voice type of description of the manufacturing process!
[flash=660,405:1n6ao1lo]http://www.youtube.com/v/3OOtuftGO1U?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:1n6ao1lo]
[point being, yes, you are paying a bit more but you're not paying solely for the boutique factor.. there's some nice engineering/design thrown in there as well]
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