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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      hm... Are you sure it's components and not just groups renaming?

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        danbig
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        OK -

        Here's a specific occurrence of groups (not components) renaming themselves.

        I had six groups, each containing several hundred instances of a component. Each group had been named a numerical designator.

        I selected all six groups, then placed them on a new layer. Upon reassigning a layer for all six groups, the names of all six groups were reset to "Group".

        I believe something similar has happened before, when the nested components will recieve the group name "group" and maintain it's component name.

        What's the difference between the two naming fields on a component? By default, the name that appears in <brackets> is generated when you name the component, but there's another name field available when browsing the component in outliner.

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          Fletch
          last edited by

          @danbig said:

          OK -

          Here's a specific occurrence of groups (not components) renaming themselves.

          I had six groups, each containing several hundred instances of a component....

          I selected all six groups, then placed them on a new layer. Upon reassigning a layer for all six groups, the names of all six groups were reset to "Group". ...

          glad I'm not the only one... but you didn't mention - did the hundreds of components also get renamed to be unique individual components and therefore you have hundreds and hundreds of "unique yet identical" components in your file now?

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            danbig
            last edited by

            I don't believe so.

            I've only had problems with the top level groups and components.

            If the hundreds of components are becoming unique, does each one have a sequential designator? IE <Component> becomes <Component #1>, <Component #2>...<Component #n>.

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              Fletch
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              exactly - I had a window with large fancy hinges and the rivets holding the hinges to the shutter... each hinge had 3 or 4 rivets, these were supposed to be identical components... but instead they somehow got sequentially numbered, yet they WERE components! Then the hinges were supposed to be identical components (3 on each shutter) - and THEY were somehow made to be sequentially numbered components! Then the Open Shutter was a component...

              http://www.kerkythea.net/phpBB2/files/camera2_pool2_preview_144.jpg

              trying to clean up the mess took me about as much time as if I had just re-built the stinking window from scratch. 😆

              I probably had too much detail on the model anyway .... serves me right. 😆

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                danbig
                last edited by

                Beautiful rendering.

                I hope I don't experience the same problem... I have not had components make themselves unique.

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                  Jim57
                  last edited by

                  Could this issue somehow be tied to that blasted box, "Replace Original With Component"? At least the outer part of it?

                  Jim

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                  • Alan FraserA Offline
                    Alan Fraser
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                    I’ve never come across this problem, but I suspect that it is a result of the fairly complex internal naming conventions within SU.
                    I regularly have to deal with the almost opposite problem of components with the same name remodelling themselves on import….especially when dealing with different configurations of vegetation using different image maps.

                    Here’s a quick example:
                    Download both the very simple tree (summer foliage) and the map of mottled autumn foliage. Open the skp, go to the Materials browser; and choose the downloaded jpg as the material, in order to change the tree from a summer version to a fall version. Save the resulting file….under a different name, obviously. So far, so good.

                    Now try to import those two versions into a new file. Whichever one is imported second will come in looking identical to the first one…even though it imports the correct material….at least as far as the browser is concerned.

                    The solution is to not only assign a different name to the material when you are adapting the original file, but also to assign a different name to the component. Even then it won’t work…you’ll notice that the component thumbnail in the browser won’t actually change from summer to autumn until you actually open the component and edit it in some way…the easiest being to move it a set distance along an axis, then back again.

                    Bear in mind that this is just a simple model with a single level of grouping. Start nesting stuff and it rapidly gets far more complex. I know this is a different problem from the one in the topic, but suspect that the reasons (and solutions) are somewhat similar.


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                      Trubble
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                      I am seeing the same problem.
                      SU 7.1.6860.
                      Windows XP Pro on a laptop with 2GB memory.

                      Modelling a building for Google Earth 3D layer, I have a component that represents a vertical slice from roof to ground level. I add this component 5 times, aligning them to produce the building frontage.

                      When I look at components in the model I see my original plus 4 others suffixed #1 #2 #3 and #4.

                      See image here, http://www.screencast.com/t/NzFjNGMzO

                      I am not doing any scripting here. Just standard SU move tool to position the component.

                      This is the first time I've seen this in about three years of using SU. I have been away from SU for a few months, so the only thing I can think of is an update to SU has introduced this bug.

                      Can anyone shed light on the cause of this?

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                        Trubble
                        last edited by

                        I've been investigating this further and have found that the problem can be reliably reproduced. 💭

                        I have submitted this to the Google forum at http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sketchup/thread?tid=6b0a0298daee1261&hl=en

                        At the above link I have posted links to SU files that can reproduce the error, as well as a YouTube video showing the bug in action.

                        The work-around in my case seems to be to ensure that the component is in "edit" before using Project Photo (when using match photo).

                        Hope this helps some others

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