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    plot-paris
    last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 15:07

    @tig said:

    I'm currently looking at updating several of my extrusion tools and putting them onto a toolbar and giving them web-dialogs were appropriate... so be patient ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿค“ ๐Ÿ˜‰

    wow, sounds exciting. I will be as patient as I can manage ๐ŸŽ‰
    ๐Ÿ˜„

    (@Gaieus**: see, with a Wave I would have been able to place this comment inline, where it belongs, instead of having to quote to make clear which post I am referring to...)**

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    • T Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 17:00

      @carrozza said:

      Hi TIG and all, today I spent some quality time trying to achieve the result of this procedure with Extrude Edges by Rails plugin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUYN_Uqzvec .

      http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9016/capturew.gif

      Any idea if and how is possible to produce this kind of result?
      Thanks in advance for the plugin and any help.

      As you found vanillas FollowMe isn't going to make a Fillet that touches the Leg and Arm properly...
      Here is away of doing it with careful pre-planning, Groups, Copy/Paste-in-Place, Intersect and EEbyRails etc - however the Fillet that's made is very poly-intensive... BUT it is accurate to suit the facets of the cylinders... depends what you want - for detailed work OK but for massing just leave out the fillets as you'll barely see them! EEbtRailsFilletWeldForm.pngEEbtRailsFilletWeldForm.skp

      TIG

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        Carrozza
        last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 21:06

        Hi TIG, thanks for your help. There's a problem with the fillet created this way, though: it doesn't revolve correctly around the "arm". See picture, taken from your kind example: on one side the arc points inward, on the other side points outward.

        http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/942/capturem.gif

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          blajnov
          last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 21:08

          With the plug "Round Corner" by Fredo, you can do the welding seam.


          Round Corner.jpg

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          • T Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 22:17

            @carrozza said:

            Hi TIG, thanks for your help. There's a problem with the fillet created this way, though: it doesn't revolve correctly around the "arm". See picture, taken from your kind example: on one side the arc points inward, on the other side points outward.

            http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/942/capturem.gif

            You are right !
            If you make it in 90 degree bits it's better...
            BUT it should be like that - I'll look at the cause...
            Perhaps the Fredo Rounded Option is the best ... see below ...
            Blajnov - exactly did you do that I can't reproduce it ??? ๐Ÿ˜•

            TIG

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              d12dozr
              last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 04:52

              @tig said:

              exactly did you do that I can't reproduce it ??? ๐Ÿ˜•

              Top segment of horizontal pipe has to line up with a segment on the vertical pipe...look closely at his hidden geometry ๐Ÿค“

              3D Printing with SketchUp Book
              http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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              • C Offline
                Carrozza
                last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 09:46

                Mamma mia, this is a great learning experience!
                Thank you very much Blajinov and TIG for your help, is much appreciated! โ˜€

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                  blajnov
                  last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 10:32

                  @tig said:

                  Blajnov - exactly did you do that I can't reproduce it ??? ๐Ÿ˜•

                  I enclose a file with scenes of action


                  RailsFilletWeldForm.skp

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                  • T Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 10:36

                    I see now... โ˜€
                    So to recap: DON'T use EEbyRails for making Fillets between Rounded Legs and Arms etc - instead USE Fredo's 'Round Corners' - it's quicker and produces better results !
                    Blajnov - it might be best if you edit / retitled your SKP without reference to EEbyR, to avoid confusion ๐Ÿ˜„

                    TIG

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 11:27

                      Here's a way to make a Multi-Railed Mesh with EEbyRails by making sub-meshes and combining them...EEbyRailsMultiRailSteps.pngEEbyRailsMultiRailSteps.skp

                      TIG

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                        Rip Tanion
                        last edited by 15 Dec 2009, 08:49

                        Awesome plugin! Thanks!

                        Three attached curvesround_corner.pnground_corner.skp

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                        • T Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 09:45

                          I don't understand you diagram.
                          You can already do this ?
                          Are you wanting some sort of 2-face FollowMe ? Just use the faces edges [welded into a curve] as your Rails ?
                          With EEbyRv2 [that is about to be launched] you will be able to choose the Profile, Rail1 and Rail2 and then a 'Melding-Profile' that fixes the end form too - is that what you want ? It will allow a definite start and end profile location form to be predefined...
                          โ“

                          TIG

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                            hsjzyangbin
                            last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 10:22

                            Hi,TIG,I have a idea that <extrude edges by rails> adds a path like this,thanks

                            next:I wish it could be add rotate and scale function


                            gogo.png


                            gg2.png

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                              hsjzyangbin
                              last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 10:33

                              @tig said:

                              I don't understand you diagram.
                              You can already do this ?
                              Are you wanting some sort of 2-face FollowMe ? Just use the faces edges [welded into a curve] as your Rails ?
                              With EEbyRv2 [that is about to be launched] you will be able to choose the Profile, Rail1 and Rail2 and then a 'Melding-Profile' that fixes the end form too - is that what you want ? It will allow a definite start and end profile location form to be predefined...
                              โ“

                              Yes,it could be "2-face +2-path+FollowMe" ๐Ÿ˜
                              I also do not have this plug-in, I use the LATHE. RB command generates images shown, as you said, the first path to the same, choose the second Rails as a control Rails
                              "lathe" you can see it http://www.sketchupbbs.com/thread-40382-1-1.html

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                                charly2008
                                last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 12:14

                                Hi,


                                Beautiful Work.jpg

                                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 12:22

                                  @hsjzyangbin said:

                                  @tig said:

                                  I don't understand you diagram.
                                  You can already do this ?
                                  Are you wanting some sort of 2-face FollowMe ? Just use the faces edges [welded into a curve] as your Rails ?
                                  With EEbyRv2 [that is about to be launched] you will be able to choose the Profile, Rail1 and Rail2 and then a 'Melding-Profile' that fixes the end form too - is that what you want ? It will allow a definite start and end profile location form to be predefined...
                                  โ“

                                  Yes,it could be "2-face +2-path+FollowMe" ๐Ÿ˜
                                  I also do not have this plug-in, I use the LATHE. RB command generates images shown, as you said, the first path to the same, choose the second Rails as a control Rails
                                  "lathe" you can see it http://www.sketchupbbs.com/thread-40382-1-1.html

                                  I too have a lathe.rb that is somewhat similar...

                                  TIG

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                                  • H Offline
                                    hsjzyangbin
                                    last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 15:46

                                    @tig said:

                                    I too have a lathe.rb that is somewhat similar...

                                    ๅธŒๆœ›ๆˆ‘็š„ๆ่ฎฎๅฏนไฝ ็š„ๆ’ไปถๆœ‰็”จ๏ผŒ่ฐข่ฐข๏ผ

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                                    • T Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 18:22

                                      @hsjzyangbin said:

                                      @tig said:

                                      I too have a lathe.rb that is somewhat similar...

                                      ๅธŒๆœ›ๆˆ‘็š„ๆ่ฎฎๅฏนไฝ ็š„ๆ’ไปถๆœ‰็”จ๏ผŒ่ฐข่ฐข๏ผ

                                      Your proposal for my plug-in very useful, thank you!

                                      TIG

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                                        david_h
                                        last edited by 21 Dec 2009, 22:25

                                        very fun indeed. Is there a toolbar? I get the command in my Plugins Tab, but Is there an onscreen toolbar as well?

                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • T Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by 21 Dec 2009, 23:11

                                          No Toolbar yet OR webdialog BUT it's on the list - trying to get v2 and segmentation right first...

                                          TIG

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