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  • C Offline
    chang11234
    last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 09:28

    http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/British_Museum_Great_Court_roof.jpg/250px-British_Museum_Great_Court_roof.jpg

    How can I make a roof like this? I have made a curvy plane, but don't know how to make a structural frame like on the picture.

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      remus
      last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 09:44

      i think the easiest thing to do would be to model the overall shape of the roof using subdivide and smooth then use lines2cylinders or similar to turn all the linework SDS creates in to the structural elements of the roof.

      subdivide and smooth: http://www.smustard.com/script/SubdivideAndSmooth

      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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        pilou
        last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 10:13

        one module (or more) + Component Stringer seems more appropriate ๐Ÿ˜‰
        Difficulty is found the curves ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          Gaieus
          last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 11:11

          How about Didier's lines2tubes plugin?
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12354

          Gai...

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            pilou
            last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 12:14

            Problem of Didier's Plug is that intersections are not solved at any level of precision! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
            (triangle, square,...circle ๐Ÿ˜’
            Else it's a very funny plug! Cool for a render from distance but not for precision ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Depending of what you do you want ๐Ÿ˜„
            prob.jpg

            http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=13863&mode=view

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              chang11234
              last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 13:38

              Thank you guys, I try the lines2tube, works realy well.

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              • D Offline
                dale
                last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 14:57

                Looks like a gridshell. If your interested here is a link to the Downland Gridshell site.http://www.wealddown.co.uk/Buildings%20and%20Exhibits/gridshell/downland-gridshell-construction-progress.htm


                Picture 3.jpg

                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                • T Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 16:20

                  Example...CurvedRoof.pngCurvedRoof.skp

                  TIG

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 16:33

                    Yes perfect for presentation โ˜€ but not for fabrication ๐Ÿ˜‰
                    prob4.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      mitcorb
                      last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 16:40

                      Pilou wrote: Problem of Didier's Plug is that intersections are not solved at any level of precision! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                      (triangle, square,...circle ๐Ÿ˜’

                      Pilou, I have been modelling pipes and cables on a roof with Lines2tubes. The roof area is full of mechanical equipment and pipes. What I do is use SU arc tool to fillet the angles, erase the segments after fitting the arcs, and then run the conversion. This makes the turns somewhat smooth--not perfect, but at the right viewing distances and the diameters of the pipes and cables at 1/2" or 2" or 3", it is sufficient for my "as-built" model. And I use this model for decisions on how to eliminate these pipes and cables in corrective construction.
                      mitcorb

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 16:50

                        @Mitcorb
                        Of course! ๐Ÿ˜„
                        I have written
                        @unknownuser said:

                        Depending of what you do you want
                        ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Here the British Museum system shown on the first post ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        http://communities.bentley.com/photos/matteosarroccos_images/images/58188/290x480.aspx

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 17:36

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Yes perfect for presentation โ˜€ but not for fabrication ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Who would ever want to make fabrication information this way !
                          It's only a 'model' !
                          If you made it out of cardboard and balsa-wood you'd not make it exactly as it'll be made when full-size...
                          If I were to make fabrication info using only SUp I'd detail typical elements and intersections separately, not in the overall model - that's only there to show us what it will look like, not how to build it !
                          ๐Ÿค“

                          TIG

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 18:29

                            Of course yes โ˜€
                            But as computer permit to make any precise structures, if it's not a painful work this can be made in one time ๐Ÿ˜‰
                            Who can make more can make less ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              Slimdog
                              last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 23:38

                              Yes looks simple for the architect or modeler but would be a hand full for the steel detailer and fabricator.

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                                mambo.harts.u
                                last edited by 7 Dec 2009, 07:37

                                Hello! I am also working on this kind of project. The thing is its a pretty big file ones you made the space frame by the lines2tube script. But if that's only way better stick to it!

                                My problem is, is there a way that i can reduce the file size so its would be easier to work on the whole project? Maybe reducing the poly lines or anything?

                                Any help is appreciated! TIA!!

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 20:53

                                  I have worked on this.

                                  I'm to explain it in Tutorial Section


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/dome001_kt_th.jpg

                                  ๐Ÿ˜‰ simon

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 22:35

                                    Done!

                                    structural curvy roof answer
                                    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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                                      stevebo
                                      last edited by 9 Jan 2010, 23:50

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      http://communities.bentley.com/photos/matteosarroccos_images/images/58188/290x480.aspx

                                      Hi Pilou. Do you know where you got this image? I'm working on a project which will use a similar construction, and would love to get some details of the Great Court!

                                      Thanks!

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by 10 Jan 2010, 00:12

                                        Here ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                          stevebo
                                          last edited by 10 Jan 2010, 12:53

                                          Merci Beaucoup ๐Ÿ˜„. Now time to learn to model this ***** ๐Ÿ˜„

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