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[Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails

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  • T Offline
    TIG Moderator
    last edited by 17 Nov 2009, 19:33

    These problems seem to relate to the way the vertices in the the curves are ordered. They are reordered by the script before making the mesh... BUT obviously not well enough in some cases.

    If you explode the three curves in your railQ.skp in turn and then immediately weld them back into new curves they make the mesh perfectly... So my re-order and weld's must vary somewhere...

    I'll look at the ordering algorithms etc and release an update asap... ๐Ÿ˜’

    TIG

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      Daniel S
      last edited by 17 Nov 2009, 20:38

      Amazing TIG!!!
      Thanky you!!!

      How about an option to maintain height?
      In your script shape curves scale in both the height and width dimensions. It will be great to have an option to remove the association between the height scaling from the width scaling for some models.

      As an example: here is what your script make:
      2.gif

      And here with Maintain height:
      1.gif

      Daniel S

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        jeff hammond
        last edited by 17 Nov 2009, 21:10

        @tig said:

        These problems seem to relate to the way the vertices in the the curves are ordered. They are reordered by the script before making the mesh... BUT obviously not well enough in some cases.

        didn't even realize vertices were in a particular order ๐Ÿ˜„ .. is the grid example something to do with the order as well or something different?

        daniel, that's going into a different territory in that the profile changes as it moves along the rails (the halfcircle doesn't remain the same in terms of shape).. if something like that is possible in SU then i have another request that's similar though different.. i'll hold off on asking for now ๐Ÿ˜„

        dotdotdot

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          Panga
          last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 13:00

          Thanks a lot for this new tool, it'll be very usefull !!

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            pilou
            last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 13:26

            When you want draw a "straight" curve line with some number of segments for fit with other curves for The TIG Plug
            Draw a line, Right Click Divide then Weld = some painful ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

            A more quicky trick ๐Ÿ’ญ
            Draw a polyline of 1 segment by the BezierSpline of Fredo6
            Then Right Click / Convert to Segmentor and enter the number of segments ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Et voilร  ๐Ÿ’š

            It's a pity than we can't draw an arc circle "Straight" or scale it to 0 or Bulge =0 ! ๐Ÿ˜ก

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              MALAISE
              last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 19:29

              TIG some Champagne ?
              Amazing tool made by TIG ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘
              MALAISE

              La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagรฉe

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                xrok1
                last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 19:35

                great plug thanks!
                maybe you could combine this with edges by edges then have the option to pick just 1 rail or 2? one more function, one less plugin! ๐Ÿ˜„

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                  xrok1
                  last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 22:28

                  Jeff, i found that if you explode the rails then weld them again that the problem is fixed. at least for me.

                  โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                  • T Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 22:38

                    @xrok1 said:

                    Jeff, i found that if you explode the rails then weld them again that the problem is fixed. at least for me.

                    This is the temporary fix... I'm incorporating this into the code so the glitches don't happen... However that makes new glitches which I'm now fixing............. ๐Ÿค“

                    TIG

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                      xrok1
                      last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 23:01

                      oops, sorry i could help. ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                      ๐Ÿ˜†

                      โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                      • T Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 23:30

                        xrok1 ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        Your idea of being able to pick a profile and then pick just one rail is quite simple to do.
                        For the next update I will add that option - you'll simply pick the profile and click on rail twice - if you pick another rail it works as now, if you pick the same rail again then it's assumed that it has a 'twin' at the other end of the profile and uses that... simplicity... ๐Ÿ’ญ

                        TIG

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                          utiler
                          last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 23:49

                          TIG, probably a silly question, but what is the difference from this plugin and extrudebyedges?
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20065&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=extrude+edges

                          Is is simple that this script allows for more random meshes?

                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                            xrok1
                            last edited by 18 Nov 2009, 23:54

                            awsome.

                            BTW, your plug is turning me into some kind of artsy fartsy... STOP IT! ๐Ÿ˜†


                            Capture.JPG

                            โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                              utiler
                              last edited by 19 Nov 2009, 22:50

                              Thanks mate, clear as crystal..... ๐Ÿ‘

                              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                mitcorb
                                last edited by 20 Nov 2009, 01:57

                                @xrok1:
                                for your excellent bowl and spork and "foon" model, did you use specific dimensions and scale? Or was this a free form experiment and the model elements proportioned by eye?
                                I am preparing to use Extrude by Rails with dimensional or scale control and was wondering about this.
                                Thanks, mitcorb

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                  xrok1
                                  last edited by 20 Nov 2009, 04:14

                                  it was freeform ๐Ÿ˜† but i can't see any reason it couldn't be dimensioned accurately if you wish to.

                                  โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    majid
                                    last edited by 20 Nov 2009, 04:53

                                    WOW TIG !!!! this is great!! thank you...you are killing me slowly ๐Ÿ˜‰ you ruby programmers are changing SU to a verrry different app. !!!thank you mate again

                                    My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 20 Nov 2009, 08:47

                                      @utiler said:

                                      TIG, probably a silly question, but what is the difference from this plugin and extrudebyedges?
                                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20065&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=extrude+edges

                                      Is is simple that this script allows for more random meshes?

                                      ExtrudeEdgesByEdges takes two groups - edges in them need not be continuous - and makes a mesh - it extrudes each edge in one set in the direction of the edges in the other - there is no 'followme' etc...
                                      ExtrudeEdgesByRails is similar BUT it only works on curves. It takes a selected profile and makes a mesh from it along two selected rails [or with the forthcoming version one rail picked twice - making it similar in that usage to EEbyEdges]. The main difference is that at each pair of 'nodes' [vertices] in the two rails the profile is placed and rotated and then scaled to fit between the rails, giving a smoothly curving mesh surface: also the number of 'nodes' in each rail is equalized if the number of vertices in the two rails is uneven - now making the 'lofting' of two unequally segmented rails possible...

                                      TIG

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                                        mitcorb
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2009, 15:09

                                        TIG:
                                        What are the possibilities of being able to orbit and inspect the initial results of the extrusion on rails while going through the checklist so that decisions can be made in the workflow? Does this make sense?

                                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                        • T Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by 21 Nov 2009, 15:15

                                          @mitcorb said:

                                          TIG:
                                          What are the possibilities of being able to orbit and inspect the initial results of the extrusion on rails while going through the checklist so that decisions can be made in the workflow? Does this make sense?

                                          It's something that's not so easy to do... but I'll look at it - I currently have a version with most of the bugs ironed out - it'll be published soonest...

                                          TIG

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