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    • T Offline
      tomasz
      last edited by

      @tig said:

      Look on Didier's site for my 'orient faces' script...

      Thanks TIG! Downloaded. πŸ˜„

      @cyan.archnet said:

      a BIG THANKS to you!!!

      You welcome. It can be handy for large, urban scale models, modelled by someone who had no clue about rendering application requirements.

      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        Sorry but how call the Tig Orient.face.rb?
        In what Menu, or with what Click mouse?
        I suppose with the Ruby console?
        How must be the selection? Facets selected? Group Selected?...

        I obtain that with the ruby Console with "face.orient_faces" or "orient.face" input in the console

        Error; #<NameError; (eval);495; undefined local variable or method `face' for main;Object>
        (eval);495
        

        So I am perplex πŸ˜‰

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          Panga
          last edited by

          Thanks for this script...saved time'll be well used !!

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            @ Tig thx for your efforts but I miss something 😳
            Don't worry I will ask on the French forum that it is not clear for me πŸ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • T Offline
              tomasz
              last edited by

              Pilou,
              What TIG has sent is a help for me. The 'orientface' script contains useful method that I can add into my plugin, which will happen soon if everything will go fine. πŸ˜„

              @panga said:

              Thanks for this script...saved time'll be well used !!

              πŸ‘ πŸ˜„

              Tomasz

              Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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              • T Offline
                tomasz
                last edited by

                I am testing your method TIG and it is working fine for Pilou's ball, but it is not dealing well with urban model I have.
                I have two ideas how to modify your method to suit FrontFace plugin better.

                1st - limit connected faces only to those with soften edge.
                2nd - limit to faces at lower angle then 90 deg.

                Will try and see.

                Pilou if you want to see how it works modify this method in frontface.rb as follows:

                def reverseFace(face)
                	face.reverse!
                	face.material, face.back_material = face.back_material, face.material
                	face.orient_faces
                end
                

                Tomasz

                Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                • boofredlayB Offline
                  boofredlay
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for this. It will prove to be very useful.

                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @ Tomasz
                    I have also try the original SU Internal "Orient face" and it works fine also with my ball with only one click πŸ˜‰
                    Your works also after the modification but you must over flight all the facets β˜€

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      Ben Ritter
                      last edited by

                      Tomasz, thank you very much.

                      Ben

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                      • A Offline
                        alz
                        last edited by

                        Very useful!

                        Could you add a "hold down left mouse" to have it be active? This would prevent accidental flipping when simply moving your mouse around in the scene.

                        Another possibility -- when being used, toggle to a different Style (say Gray = front face, Red = back face).

                        πŸ˜„

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                        • boofredlayB Offline
                          boofredlay
                          last edited by

                          @alz said:

                          Could you add a "hold down left mouse" to have it be active? This would prevent accidental flipping when simply moving your mouse around in the scene.

                          That or change the cursor to something different while active.

                          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                            tomasz
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            That or change the cursor to something different while active.

                            Good idea Boofredlay - added to the 'TO DO' list.

                            @alz said:

                            Could you add a "hold down left mouse" to have it be active? This would prevent accidental flipping when simply moving your mouse around in the scene.

                            I think your finger will fail with big scenes to work correctly for a longer period πŸ˜„,
                            but... I could turn it on permanently when a LMB would be pressed longer then.. say 5 sec.

                            @alz said:

                            Another possibility -- when being used, toggle to a different Style (say Gray = front face, Red = back face).

                            I prefer let user decide what monochrome style looks like.

                            Thanks
                            Tomasz

                            Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Sorry but how call the Tig Orient.face.rb?
                              In what Menu, or with what Click mouse?
                              I suppose with the Ruby console?
                              How must be the selection? Facets selected? Group Selected?...

                              I obtain that with the ruby Console with "face.orient_faces" or "orient.face" input in the console

                              Error; #<NameError; (eval);495; undefined local variable or method `face' for main;Object>
                              > (eval);495
                              

                              So I am perplex πŸ˜‰

                              As the guidance notes at the start say...

                              It matches the orientation of a face to any connected 'co-edged' faces.
                              It mimics SketchUp's "Orient Faces" Tool.
                              It can sometimes produce slightly different results when more than two
                              connected faces share a common edge. Its results are equally logical,
                              and who's to say how they should orient anyway ?
                              Ideas on how to duplicate the built-in tool are welcomed...
                              You can call it from other scripts thus: face.orient_faces

                              i.e. if you put the script in the Plugins Folder it creates a new method - a 'Face' now has an extra method called "orient_faces"

                              Let's say you have a face that's been chosen in your script which has been given the variable 'face', then adding in the line

                              face.orient_faces
                              

                              will make any other faces that adjoin it [or its neighbours etc] flip to match that chosen face's orientation (normal) - just like the built-in 'orient faces' does in the right-click context-menu when you select a face...

                              .

                              TIG

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                                Daniel Bouchard
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Tomasz for this great plugin. πŸ‘

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                                • boofredlayB Offline
                                  boofredlay
                                  last edited by

                                  Any progress on changing the cursor Tomasz?
                                  I am using it today and was just curious. Handy tool BTW.

                                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Tomasz,

                                    Thanks for this gem!

                                    One question (or maybe a feature request) - after reversing the face (and successfully applying the back face material on the front face), could the plugin also delete the material applied on the back face? I.e. to paint the back face with the default (grey/blue) material.

                                    OR - alternatively - does anyone know a plugin that would delete all materials applied to back faces only?

                                    Gai...

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @gaieus said:

                                      OR - alternatively - does anyone know a plugin that would delete all materials applied to back faces only?

                                      I could add that to my Remove Marerials plugin.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Thom,

                                        That'd be an excellent feature and much appreciated πŸ‘

                                        Rich

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, Thom, that would be very handy.

                                          But of course, such a (to me very sophisticated but for you, guys, probably easy) modification for this FrontFace Plugin would also be handy - so that you need not fiddle with two different plugins (although the very simplicity of this plugin is also charming - no settings, no hassle with dialogs - just "brush" over the model and voilΓ‘)

                                          Gai...

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                                            tomasz
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Gaieus,
                                            The option of having back material reset to default looks nice.
                                            I am currently terribly busy, but Christmas is coming.
                                            I will put it on my list.

                                            Tomasz

                                            Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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