@sepo said:
It looks a bit noisy. Don't know much about Indigo ....is this MLT ?
Yeah Indigo is free MLT. You let it render until the noise clears (ala Fryrender and Maxwell). Rendering speed (and image quality) is similar to Fry and Maxwell. Setup time is about as quick as it gets.
http://www.indigorenderer.com/joomla
@unknownuser said:
The fundamental basis for using SketchUp is ease of use and low-poly modeling. This is where things fall apart. The low-poly work is pretty obvious in high-end renderers (see table base and top). For the most part you can get around this by making a circle 96 segments instead of 24, but then then working with a decent size model thongs start to bog down. A room full of high-poly chairs and tables gets pretty messy, pretty quickly.
One workaround to the issue of messy, slow, highpoly models is the use of dummy components. In the case of your image, you could create high poly versions of the table and chairs and then use the Sketchup Component browser to replace the low poly versions just prior to exporting to Maxwell. Even better would be if this process could be performed automatically when you export. This feature will be in the next version of SkIndigo (Indigo exporter). It is a truly powerful and useful feature and I expect other render exporters will also have that feature in the future.
http://www.indigorenderer.com/joomla/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1177&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
Whaat
Your words are always appreciated biebel. Probably 75% of the features that have been put into SkIndigo are a result of your input. I basically consider you a co-developer of the plug-in!
In case you didn't know, I have released another test version of SkIndigo (0.9test4). It addresses some of the workflow concerns you have mentioned to me in the past. One nice feature is that 'Quick Export' is quite a bit easier to use. Also, the latest test release of Indigo is a LOT faster in the start-up process then previous versions. OnoSendai is also doing a lot of speed optimization lately. Every test release gets faster. I think the coming stable release of Indigo 0.9 combined with the offical release of SkIndigo 0.9 will be an awesome combination.
With regards to your tonemapping comments, I am planning on waiting until OnoSendai adds controls for shutter speed and film ISO. Then, you will see these controls in the SkIndigo interface. Right now, Ono is working on photo calibration tests so he gets the controls right.
Here is the link to the latest SkIndigo test release. It seems to fairly bug free so far. Remember to use it with Indigo 0.9test4
http://www.indigorenderer.com/joomla/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2316&start=0
Cheers and thanks again for the nice words,
Whaat
@unknownuser said:
ilay7k wrote:
Whaat it's great!!!
How much did it render?
Rendered about 2 hours on one thread. P4 3.2GHz.
Original size was 1000x1026.
I just thought I'd share this experiment I did. Hopefully Jeff Jacobs doesn't mind me using one of this superb renderings for this test. Thanks!
Here's what I did:
I spent very little time on material and lighting setup (and modeling for that matter...) The purpose of this experiment was just to show what is possible. I am not trying to compare rendering ability or software. This experiment was used mainly as a test of using a Photomatch->Indigo workflow.
Questions and comments are welcome...
@unknownuser said:
CPhillips wrote:
Did your really try simulating 2 million cars?Chris
Ahh..you mis-read the post on the Indigo website...I did not try to simulate 2 million cars. I only simulated the tower (which I created of simple blocks and then replaced them with the car using dummy components)
Then, I added about 2 million more dummy cars and tried to render the scene again. It took too long to export so I had to cut the number of cars back to about 126,000 Wink
I have updated the attachment in the first post to show the final render of 126,000 cars...
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I did this render just for fun and to test if SkIndigo proxy components worked with Sketchy Solids. Keep up the good work CPhillips!
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Ga%20...%20hysics.jpg
Whaat
OK,
It seems like the IE error messages were caused because of improper SkIndigo installation. The directory structure got messed up when the users were unzipping the plugin. This isn't the first time I have heard of this happening so be aware of this!
Another user is having a strange problem. I am not 100% sure, but I think that any javascript that is called from Ruby using (for example):
dlg.execute_script("my_js")
has no effect. Does anybody have any ideas why this would happen? He is using Vista Home Premium which seems to be working for everyone else (including me).
I thought it was caused by some sort of security software but apparently, he has none installed except for Windows Defender. Please Help!
@ilay7k said:
So i haven't problems with webdialogs.
I have AVG(antivir) 7.5 Server Ed. and when i work with 3D(any) i turn off it(it also happens with Nod32, Kaspersky....).I try to open html by opera(9), nothing; only some errors with preview.
So it is normally with IE6(and i use html lister-plugin for total commander too...it's normal)
Thanks ilay7k. I think I figured out the problems that people have been having with the dialogs. I will post later once I know for sure.
TBD,
The thing is, the error does not seem to be caused by my dialogs. Look at the URL. res://ieframe.dll/dnserrordiagoff_webOC.htm. Whenever there is an error with my web dialogs I get the URL file:///C:/Program%20Files/Google/Google%20SketchUp%206/Plugins/SkIndigo/Dialogs/MaterialEditor.html
I googled this error message and I got linked to some interesting threads. These errors seem to be related to firewalls because many people were able to fix this problem by disabling their firewall.
@unknownuser said:
/Plugins/SkIndigo_1_0_1.rb:5080: warning: string pattern instead of regexp; metacharacters no longer effective
Not a bug...just sloppy programming. I will eventually get around to cleaning up my programming. :esmile:
Thanks for testing!
One of my testers is getting this error using Vista home premium x32 bit. It seems like none of the dialogs will not even appear. I think it is related to firewall or security settings (maybe even spyware). I was just wondering if any one of the Ruby pros have seen this message before and can tell me exactly what the problem is.
Image link broken
On other note, I would love help with testing and debugging my SkIndigo web dialogs. They seem to work perfect for me on Vista home premium but some other users are having some problems. They should work on a MAC running bootcamp. You need to install Indigo 1.0.1 for everything to work correctly. If you are interested, here are the links.
http://www.indigorenderer.com/joomla/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2834&start=0
http://www.indigorenderer.com/joomla/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2947&start=0
Please ignore my sloppy coding! 
I'm still learning! 
Thanks a lot for your help, TBD.
I'm starting to get somewhere...
Thanks, TBD, but that leaves me with some more questions:
Thanks again,
Whaat
How do I change the browser used for Web Dialogs?
I thought this was easy. Whatever is your default internet browser will be used for web dialogs. Wrong! I searched for the answer in the Google groups for SketchUp and noticed that many other users had this problem but I could not find the answer anywhere! I am trying to test my dialogs using FF but SketchUp keeps launching IE! 
EDIT: changed the name of the thread. Anyone is welcome post Q&A here regarding web dialogs.
@unknownuser said:
One thing is annoying in your script for multi rendering programs users
When double click on material in SU material editor your SU2IN windows pops up.
You are correct. I knew this might be a problem for some users. It will likely be changed when the new GUI for SkIndigo is released.
@cphillips said:
Very nice! Love how dynamic the dialogs are. How did you do the html layout? Any java script libs used?
Everything is hand-coded in html (including the layout) and I created my own simple javascript functions for everything except for the sliders. The sliders are a very light-weight (22kb) javascript library from WebFX. They are actually quite easy to implement.
I am amazed at what can be done using basic HTML and javascript. For most web-dialogs, there is not much need to download javascript libraries. The code for these dialogs is actually fairly simple. The dynamic "hiding" and "showing" is done with this type of javascript:
function setVisible(page_id){
document.getElementById("output").style.display="none"
document.getElementById("tonemapping").style.display="none"
document.getElementById("camera").style.display="none"
document.getElementById("environment").style.display="none"
document.getElementById("advanced").style.display="none"
document.getElementById(page_id).style.display="block"
}
This code hides all of the major <div>s in the render settings dialog. Then, the last line shows the <div> with the id that was passed as an argument to this function.
This is a great resource for anyone wanting to learn this stuff. There are lots of interactive examples.
http://www.w3schools.com/
@unknownuser said:
On a Mac, what Quick Time codec do I need to watch this AVI? I tried DivX and that didn't work.
Todd
Sorry, Todd, I'm not sure. I made the video with HyperCam2 (cool program by the way) and it was set to automatically pick the type of compression. I would first try Cinepak codec by Radius. Or, it could be Intel IYUV, or Microsoft Video 1. It is definitely not DivX or XVid, though. If you figure it out, please post. Thanks.
I recently got hooked on web dialogs. Check out the clips below. There is still a lot of work to do before I can release this but I am happy with how thing are working so far.
Now that I have dug quite deep into web dialogs, html, javascript, and css, hopefully I can help others who have questions in this area.
Enjoy!