@Rich-O-Brien Thank you for commenting, in my opinion it is interesting because with this possibility you could do without the native move command and thus you would have everything together in one command. This is very practical in the future to be able to work with a pencil without having to use the keyboard or for people who do not like to use the keyboard to draw. Anyway, thank you for your time and greetings

@Rich-O-Brien Hello, I also wanted to make the following observations. The initial pointing target gets lost a little on the screen, I think it might be good to replace it with a target that stands out a little more. Another thing that I cannot do is, for example, the displacement that the native command does to move only the point of a vertex. It would be nice if axyz could fully emulate the native move command. I think it would be great to be able to use Axyz to be able to manipulate an object in all possible ways. Finally, I don't know if you have considered using superpositions, for example like Curic does, where for example when you touch the object the gizmo appears without having to invoke the command.

@fredo6
Congratulations on the plugin and thanks for listening. It would be great if you could move the object with alignment and scale, like the AutoCAD align command.

@pedroe said:

@fredo6 said:

@pedroe said:

It is about not losing the focus of attention on the object to be manipulated, not everyone likes keyboard shortcuts. In this way you optimize mouse movements, in addition to the fact that the future comes with touch screens, similar to what sketchup for ipad does.

Then, you can have a simple toolbar with at the top of your screen. Normally, FredoSketch selects the objects being moved or rotated when exiting. So you can probably chain with another tool.

Example of manipulation by gizmos:

This was what i meant:

although it is still room for improvement. I encourage you to do it. All the best.

@fredo6 said:

@pedroe said:

It is about not losing the focus of attention on the object to be manipulated, not everyone likes keyboard shortcuts. In this way you optimize mouse movements, in addition to the fact that the future comes with touch screens, similar to what sketchup for ipad does.

Then, you can have a simple toolbar with at the top of your screen. Normally, FredoSketch selects the objects being moved or rotated when exiting. So you can probably chain with another tool.

Example of manipulation by gizmos:

It is about not losing the focus of attention on the object to be manipulated, not everyone likes keyboard shortcuts. In this way you optimize mouse movements, in addition to the fact that the future comes with touch screens, similar to what sketchup for ipad does.

In principle, I do not mean that they are object handlers, but that those icons that appear allow once the input command is executed (by default to move) then they allow us to choose if we copy, scale, rotate, mirror, etc. In other words, an initial command derives in all the other movements that we can make to an object, without having to choose a command each time. The object manipulator points you already do with the most efficient way that you consider.

even better, that hot boxes appear at the main points (vertices, midpoints, etc) that allow you to choose whether to move (default command), copy, rotate, scale, move and rotate. It could be something as fun as this, to manipulate only with the mouse.

And why not unite everything in a single command and button, I mean, invoke a command that allows us to move, copy, rotate, align and then the auxiliary keys that allow us to choose. For a button to move, another to rotate, another to move to align, it is better to merge them all as we have now, for example, move and copy by pressing ctrl

@fredo6 said:

@PedroE

Difficult to tell without seeing the model, which may be convoluted for the joint push pull operation.

Fredo

same error on joint push pull but not on vector push pull

st-01.skp
@fredo6 said:

@PedroE

Difficult to tell without seeing the model, which may be convoluted for the joint push pull operation.

Fredo

Gracias por contestar. Te adjunto modelo.
su 2021

Hola,tengo el siguiente problema. Existe alguna solucion? gracias

Ruby Error - Thickener - 08-Mar-22 23_05_50

Problems with the reaction of the popup windows through shortcuts, it seems that the focus of the main sketchup window is lost, then by selecting the main sketchup window with the left click it reacts again normally.

appear this way

I have loaded several png and the same thing happened

Error with custom icons, this appears when you try to put one. The accept button that is at the bottom of the window also disappears because the icon path is very long and increases the black box.

@fredo6 said:

@pedroe said:

More errors detected: when you alternate the sketchup full screen with another window using a shortcut (ctrl + alt + tab) vignettes bar disappears, it only appears with popup the vignette stripe command.

Which key combination do you use. I don't observe the problem with Alt-Tab and Ctrl-Alt-Tab

@pedroe said:

The palette windows do not retain the custom size when a shortcut popup is opened with a shortcut key, they adjust automatically.

This is normal. When you use a shortcut to make a palette appear, LOTT display the palette expanded, so that you can see all command icons. When you click a command (or click in the empty space or press escape), the palette will automatically disappear.

The problem is when you have many buttons and the window can be excessively large, if you could keep a custom window size, the most used buttons would be visible and the rest would appear by sliding with the mouse wheel.

More errors detected: when you alternate the sketchup full screen with another window using a shortcut (ctrl + alt + tab) vignettes bar disappears, it only appears with popup the vignette stripe command.
The palette windows do not retain the custom size when a shortcut popup is opened with a shortcut key, they adjust automatically.

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