@box said: You're on the sketchucation forum, have you looked in the Plugin store right here for Tig's Mirror. Thank you so much Box, worked brilliantly. Happy days . Regards P

@box said: Often the logitech drivers can be the problem. It can be better to run the mouse with the default win drivers. Hi Box Thanks for that, worth checking out.

consider paying for the upgrade to v15 Pro while you can, I think you and your new system deserve it as a retirement gift... john

For vector PDF's, I've found Inkscape does a creditable job. It imports Ok and I can then clean up the vectors before export as a DXF or OBJ (for Blender).

@dave r said: Download the current version of LibFredo6 it and replace the old version. Then it will work fine. Thanks for your quick response Dave. I'll do that. Had a hunch it was the thing to do but did not want to upset my settings!

@gaieus said: Hi Patrick, I would first wade through all my plugin folder to remove any renderin related rb (or rbs) file manually. Uninstalling the application itself may not remove these files, too. If SU is still unstable, you can safely reinstall it and all your custom added plugins should remain intact. **As for the forums - it won't disappear. ** Hi Gaieus just an update to let you know how it went! I did as you said and removed all render related rb files and it appears to have done the trick. I did not have to re-install SU so maybe I think that Render[in] 2 clashed with my other render programs, I had Podium and Shaderlight installed. Anyhow all's well and thanks again for your help. Thanks also to Annsi and Catamountain from the google forum for taking the time to reply to my call for help!