I think I can find just about anything I want... like you do.

Now you're getting impatient for my answers? Would you rather I just post pasted images from code pink blogs like some lazy troll?

Mayor,

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Just a couple of points. I tend to find that most situations in life are varying shades of gray and never simply black or white.

I agree and have been trying to convince the anti corporation fan club of this for the entire thread

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As regards a monopoly situation. I would regard any company that is trying to achieve this situation as just as bad as one.

Idon't think that's in Monsantos plan

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I honestly don't feel that taking a patent out on an extension on Nature's seeds is acceptable. I have no problem with companies taking out patents on extensions to human's inventions however. This law should be repealed as its just not right!

Monsanto's patents are human inventions.

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I haven't yet investigated the full Monsanto history. When I do so I will then form a more solid personal opinion of the company in my mind. To date from what I read, I am putting them into the dark gray area of business as hypocrisy doesn't cut it for me.

We have time. I suggest perhaps reading some of the pro GMO information along with the "other stuff"

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On the other hand if they are to have their patents, so be it. And they can charge what they like for their Roundup resistant sterile seeds. My only requirement would be that they don't contaminate non GM neighboring crops that are growing as nature intended. I imagine the only way they could do this is to put all their crops under cover while growing! And while they at it, they should retain the 'super pests' that develop because of these GM crops.

Most of this sounds like conjecture and rhetorical So I don't see a need to rebut. I've not seen any verified conclusive study reports beyond those admitting a bias and lacking proof. To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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I know this sounds totally ridiculous and impractical but I see no other way to protect neighboring non GM crops and heritage seeds that I have no doubt will be needed when Big M and Co mutates the hell out of Nature's core seeds and renders them next to useless in the future.

Is this another one of your grey areas? It sounds more black and white by your description...almost as thought you've already made up your mind even though it sounds ridiculous and impractical

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As regards Percy. He didn't win nor did he loose as he was not liable for Big M's legal costs. Again, this was yet another gray area. BTW, the video didn't indicate the court decisions.

I think the link I gave you indicated he lost 3 court cases and the SC case and had to pay Monsanto his profit earned by the stolen tech. He also had to pay his own legal bills totaling, by his estimate to be C$400,000.00

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So Mike, you are happy with the idea of future fruit, veg and cereals with built in re-seeding obsolescence?

I'm not sure what the term means so you might point me to an explanation of the phrase for clarity. Does re-seeding obsolescence mean there is no need to ever re-seed? What ever it means I would say it depends on THE BOTTOM LINE as in any cost benefit analysis

Wow now I trust Monsanto even more! Thanks Solo!

Mr Mayor..I read the article you posted @ GMeducation.org

I made notes as I read it.

How many companies would you say isnt a monopoly..10...20...1000?

I thought monopoly meant a single controling principle.

The article starts out calling Monsanto a monopoly in the title...but then says there are 4 major players.

I would prefer honesty in a commentary, especially if I am reading it to learn or form an opinion on the subject.

So the author goes ghetto and refers to the 4 corporations as a CARTEL implying nefarious, illegal business.

DoJ inviestigates, finds no anti trust violations, closes the investigation after 2 years. The antagonists suggest that the DOJ is some how part of the evil empire.

I think the higher prices of seeds...like food..in the time frame mentioned isn't due to some phoney monopoly but rather coincides with fuel cost increases... which affects us all....and in costs that have no link to food or Monsanto.

Then the article goes on to blame monsanto for increases in the suicide rate....

I think perhaps the article, and the entire web page, has a little bias...and like greenpeace must illicit a fear response to get donations so they can save the planet from people like me.

So we come to Percy Schmeiser who lost all the cases in court and still claims to have won...which I find weird.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/percy-schmeiser.aspx

Monsanto Canada Inc v Schmeiser - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

Percy got caught.

AHH I knew it! now humans aren't natural!
nature is polio, aids, syphilis, diptheria, drought, black plague, tsunamis, pestilence, floods, fire, tornados, earthquakes, flu, hurricanes, volcanos ...I could go on for an hour.

what humans do...no matter what it is...is nature.

...and no...I wouldn't trust greenpeace

I recognize anti-GMO protestations as an attack on capitalism and nothing more.

Let's just say that I believe Forbes before GMOWatch.org.

Science can fix natures failings.

Exposing the Anti-GMO Legal Machine: The Real Story Behind the So-Called Monsanto Protection Act

Let’s separate the facts from the fury.

Forbes (www.forbes.com)

oh we wouldn't want people resistant to diseases caused by GMfoods now would we...
Oh wait...they already are.

Clearly the solution is GMbees that are resistant to pesticides.

Your GMwatch link says they cant prove their assertions...they say the have no evidence. As usual. I have a problem with banning things till more research is done.

Are they going to ban cars because all the bees in California are smeared all over the windshields of automobiles speeding along the highways next to those huge almond groves?

Probably not.

I'm sure your house will be just fine. Wind is more an issue with uplift anyway.

excellent, looking forward to it.

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After the Styrofoam I'll put on the sheathing and then the windows.

this method would seem to diminish the shear panel advantages in the continuously sheathed structure.

I don't mean to highjack your thread.

good deal...I was worried I would have to relearn/unlearn etc.

Dave.. will workflow for a building model change much in the pro version of SU?

Were I to design a home and create plans in SU for the home, would I create the model then add the scenes or create the model and scenes as the model is created?
I am assuming the former.

I would like a basic tutorial on creating a model like that. I don't mean creating any geometry...I mean the scenes.

What's the weird header thing on the eave of the garage? oh nm I see its Styrofoam on the entity info

Why are all the scenes in pp?

how's this for a coinkydink

Monsanto buys Beeologics, working to save pollinating bees.
http://current.com/1e85ikc

I'm guessing that the sender attached the wrong file and sent skb which I think is the backup file version...you want skp ...and your mac hasn't associated the backup file with SU

OK then it's settled...people suck!

seriously, well said TIG. Each move must be weighed, a cost benefit analysis done.

but Audentes fortuna iuvat

must be a secret