Apparently he spent 20,000 hours if i heard properly and like 15 years of his life to build a PERFECT 100% working replica of a Ferarri.
Gearbox, engine, all 12 cylinders, everything works. It even sounds like a Ferarri!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQenBjDPUaA
This puts every project ive ever attempted to shame.
I started out with football as a kid, but I found that too boring.
At the age of 9 I started skateboarding, and have been doing it ever since.
At the age of 15 I started playing paintball, not "lets go out in the woods and shoot each other" but "GAME STARTS IN 3, 2, 1" tournement paintball. Let me tell you, I've played many other sports, and NOTHING is as fast paced as a game of speedball or X ball.
In the space of 5 seconds every player on both teams goes from the end of the field, to somewhere 150 feet away and spread out in a perfectly coordinated pattern while being perfectly dug in to cover.
Football doesnt even match the coordination of a good team, one of the teams I would video tape for were at the point where they could advance instantly all as a unit with all the players 100 or more feet apart with no signals.
In a game like football, you can always depend on the person being where he should be assuming a good team, in paintball its very possible to start a match with a plan based on 5 players, and within 15 seconds be down to 3. This is where you can separate good players from bad ones, because a bad team will collapse if they take a sudden loss.
A good team will shrug it off, advance up the field to a position more suitable for the number of players, and continue the match as if nothing happened.
Its rather amazing to see the perfect coordination of some professional teams. Even without ever having seen the field they are playing on, the 15 seconds spent in the start box is enough for them to know exactly what they must all do as a team without even saying a word.
As a side note, did you guys know paintball missed out on being in the Olympics by a single vote? And statistically speaking paintball is safer than golf.
Sorry, I loves me some paintball.
What he should do is have the size percentage based instead of a specific amount of pixels.
Use his rather neat background image across the whole thing, then set the left side as say... 80% and the right menu at 20% width.
Then no matter what the resolution of the screen it will scale properly.
Of course there is more to it than that, and you will still have to make sure it all looks ok as you scale it back on the screen, but thats the idea.
@unknownuser said:
...and that 1/3 does in fact end, thats why its called a repeating, terminating decimal."
I believe that is what we call a typo 
I believe it should read "does in fact NOT end, thats why its called a repeating, NON-terminating decimal.
Yeah, I slipped, it was past my bedtime. 
@juanv.soler said:
My thinking is that pi, must in fact, end .
(for it must provide a shape).
Whilst 1/3 does not have to provide a shape.
it is not his work.
can dream.
ooh circular reasoning (pun intended)
That makes sense, however there is nothing to say that a ratio cannot work properly without an end, only infinitely increasing levels of accuracy (which on its own is a paradox, because you cant do better than perfect right?)
I would be interested in running that by someone in the profession of calculating stupid numbers to places beyond any usable level of accuracy. Something about that statement, while it makes sense right now, doesn't exactly sit right in the back of my mind and I cant place it.
Anyways, I'm off to bed so I can survive work tonight, please by all means continue this because I love reading these sorts of things.
Please by all means message this joke to me! Unless its the one about the Special Olympics of course lol, because that is all too familiar.
@schreiberbike said:
@masta squidge said:
He stated to me that since someone made it, that means it HAS to have an end.
Nobody made Pi or 1/3, they are ratios. Perhaps if he believes that God made the universe he will believe that God made those ratios. If God did it, perhaps he will believe that the ratios have no ending when expressed as numbers.
Good point, in fact, I dont think I can think of any response for that.
But I told him half a dozen times that nobody "made" the numbers, hes just one of those thick headed kids who by a strange coincidence is also a conspiracy theorist.
Somehow he managed to bring a discussion about mathematics around to a discussion of what I believe happened on 9/11, the went totally off explaining how the government did it.
Sorry, but I personally don't care how it happened, what I care about was the fact that it happened at all, and shouldn't have. But that's got nothing to do with this now does it!
I love the interwebz, its where everyone has a voice, even the people who act so dumb that logically (based on their portrayed intelligence) they shouldn't be capable of understanding how to type.
I just re-read that and my typing is horrible when I'm on a roll.
Would you guys agree with this post? I just sort of figured it all out as I went along:
@unknownuser said:
@unknownuser said:
Etchii wrote:PI is non terminating, non repeating. (I find the non repeating part hard to believe... in my head if you were patient enough to keep dividing and ended up with 10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 digits...somewhere there has to be a pattern. Even if it is a 10 billion digit sequence.)
1/3 is non teminating, repeating.divide 1/3
.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 (see it will never end, just keep dividing for your entire life...enjoy a legacy of 3s)
@unknownuser said:
Masta Squidge wrote:
Actually i understand your logic, there are 10,000,000,000 possible combinations of the numbers 0-9 when only using 10 places, ten digits to the power of ten. Which either you figured out or its a fluke that you said 10 billion.
However the reason why that may be untrue, is that in order for the pattern to repeat, you would need the first 10 billion digits and the second ten billion digits to be in the same order.
But the problem comes when dealing with 10 billion digits, as you then have 10 billion places to take into account, which pushes the number to 10,000,000,000^10, and im not willing to figure that one out, as the character limit of this post probably wouldnt touch .1% of the digits.What I mean is that the more places you have, the more possible combinations of 0-9 you have. When this is taken into account it is easy to see why its posisble that it will never repeat.
Lets not forget that a pattern of ten billion digits repeated twice then has 20 billion^10 combinations.... pusching that even farther out of reach.
Sorry for the double post
@krisidious said:
yeah I agree Bruce...
infinity is a hard thing for people to grasp... but some things are unanswered, we never know for sure. or at least not while we ask the question. math may or may not be natural. I see it more as our description of the universe...
from when the single cell splits 1+1=2 to Ο the whole universe is math... but it may have an edge? an end? that 13 dimension theory calls for multiple universes would that not mean that infinite was not so infinite after all?
Even if the 13 dimension theory was true (I kind of like that theory) the concept of infinity would still hold true for things like numbers, who occupy no real space physical or otherwise, and so has no bounding limits regardless of any limits the universe might have.
Like I told that kid, you can always add one more, and in the same regard for the negative end of the number line you can always subtract one.
I think the only limit for numbers would be the physical limit of the size of the universe not having enough room if filled with sheets of paper, stacked up and spread out in multiple stacks across the entire universe, filling every square nanometer, to write down all the numbers! :egrin:
@unknownuser said:
I'd say you are wasting your energy on this person...right or wrong.
You show a lot of passion in your (other thread) discussion that would be better directed to your art. I am guilty of this myself from time to time.One other thing....I do think it is good that you are trying to understand his point of view although it seems to be a moving target. Remember the number of times that you have heard the word "impossible" in your life. I hope that you rarely pay attention to that word.
Cheers!
There is nothing I enjoy more than a proper debate, but since that is a rarity I will settle for giving my best to argue my side of a story, providing as much proof as I can (unlike most people who think their opinion is the end all be all).
Only when the other person proves me wrong will I accept that fact.
The beauty of forums is that I have time to look up my information before I make a post, that way I try to be as accurate as I can be.
More than that even, if you look on wiki it says more than one thing, being that its wiki and anyone can change it, but it states several billion and over one trillion places on the page.
But more so than whether or not he is right about pi is that he is using false logic.
He stated to me that since someone made it, that means it HAS to have an end. He treats numbers as if they are physical creations.
If he is applying the same logic to the decimal for 1/3, then he obviously has no idea if pi ends or not, so thats not the problem, the problem is how he can assume his logic is correct when he can prove it to himself, on paper, that 1/3 never ends.
Actually, to be honest i have no idea if you guys can follow what exactly what im trying to get across, because the connection between my brain and my typing is like running HDTV over a 400 mile long telephone line. Yet he insists that it does end based on information that is only based in his own mind, and he is unable to provide any proof except for if-then statements that have no foundation in reality.
The biggest one being that if someone created the number, then it must end. This is obviously flawed, because number were not "created", we simply gave names to things which previously existed but had not yet been "discovered"
So, I recently got into an argument on another forum relating irrational numbers, and non terminating numbers.
This fellow user swears six ways from Sunday that I'm wrong and he is right and that pi does in fact end, and for that matter, that 1/3 as a decimal ends.
Now, anyone who paid attention in math class in middle school knows that he is wrong, that pi is called an irrational number for a reason, and that 1/3 does in fact not end, thats why its called a repeating, non-terminating decimal.
Now, you could argue that we havent calculated pi to enough places and that it could have an end, but that would be false because during the process of long division you would end up dividing every digit from 0-9 and would always have a remainder no matter which digit you wind up with. (Dont know how else to explain that, but I know what i mean :egrin: lol)
Anyways, this kids argument is that everything has a beginning and an end, and that our math is messed up because he is clearly the one who is right (regardless of what hundreds of years of study say) but anyone who grasps the concept of infinity knows that not everything has a beginning or an end in mathematics.
You can peruse the thread here:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=offtopic&thread.id=2156247
But what im really after, is a discussion on the possible logic this kid (maybe adult?) is using, because no matter how hard I try I cannot possibly grasp the same logic that he is using.
The way I see it, is that if the concept of infinity exists, and if pi is classified as an irrational number, then by definition that means it never ends. I would think that even if i had no idea what pi actually is.
Also, just by doing the long division on paper you can see clearly within two steps that 1/3 converted to a decimal in fact will never end.
Fixed, because I failed at... being smart?
@unknownuser said:
Yes! I went and picked it up at midnight. I found that it was well worth the wait! Hey cheffey, tell me your gamertag so I can whoop yo ass! Haha!
I was sorely dissapointed by the multiplayer aspect, at least thats how im feeling right now after a 3 hour dose of it at a friends house.
I was going to buy a 360 just for this game but now im not so sure. Its just like playing halo 2, just with more stuff to kill each other with.
Ive looked into the rep rap stuff before, in order to work with metal you need either extremely high temps or a cnc machine. In order to make something like a gun you would need to deal with metals, thats why i said something like that isnt exactly possible for a rapid prototyper.
There was one made that used sugar and a hot air gun though, that was kind of neat.
It is promising though, although in the end the goal they are trying to achieve is self replication. it would require alot of incoming resources, and a machine capable of doing many different types of operations. Meaning with current technology it would need to be a very large, multi stage machine. Not exactly what they are hoping for though. Not to mention that these machines cant create any parts that make use of metal so motors and wiring are out of the question. At least, thats how it is so far.
Sadly, in my limited scope of the world i cant read that.
But from what i can tell thats a way of working metal? I suppose that given the right machine you could do it with todays technology then. It would require a large machine though.
Unless of course that has nothing to do with my previous post and im just babbling in the wind.
@unknownuser said:
Above is a link to an interesting, if a little long, forum discussion on the pros, cons and practicalities of building your own 3D printer and some views on the ramifications of mass roll out of these devices.
There is a great quote; "put your feet up Santa, the christmas machine is coming!"
Also they propose the idea of Napster style piracy issues to do with downloading and printing, for instance, toys.
My immediate concern is that criminals could download blueprints for a handgun or other weapon and print out the parts? But a crime spree shouldn't stand in the way of innovation! I want one.I'd be very interested to know if anybody has home built a 3d printer capable of architectural model making.
the problem with printing is that you need a suitable medium. I assume that steel or any sort of alloy would be far too much for one of these to handle. Then again, who knows, its the future right?
Look up Aidan Chopra on youtube, he has some amazing tutorial videos that you can watch through. http://youtube.com/user/aidanchopra
Also, although im a huge newb at SU myself, i can suggest that you open the eraser tool, and while holding the ctrl button click the lines on those rounded corners. That will smooth the line into the bend.
And I think the walls should be .... 4 3/4" thick to account for a single 2x4 and two sheets of drywall. That should help with those, and a trick i learned in highschool architecture is to create the floor shape of the room first, then move everything into place to account for walls. While not needed in SU, it might help you to get a feel for where things need to be placed maybe? It helped me anyways.
But ive also found that the plans on that site sometimes arent very accurate .
Anyone care to pick up where I left off or perhaps (as is often the case) suggest a much easier method that i managed to forget or simply dont know about?
And the freezing just depends on the autosave like you mentioned already, any time it auto saves it will pause for a second, though i have yet to use SU on a pc that didnt pause during autosave.
Make sure to not use any large textures, especially not BMP images (i learned that the hard way) and make sure to intersect the model if things come through each other, and delete all the geometry inside as well as outside if its not needed.
@monsterzero said:
You can check out my youtube videos for a glimpse at how I work with a tablet and SU.
That was you?? I must have watched those videos 100 times trying to sponge up everything i could from them.
Nice work.
Man, imagine that thing with some good mapping applied to it. It looks great as it is, some spooky lighting and such and you got yourself something worthy of the latest video games.
If anyone has seen Bioshock, well, this is up to that level.
Oh, and apart from the stones on the well, the hook should be tilted to match its center of gravity, it looks slightly off just sticking out at a straight angle.