@boofredlay said:

@jql said:

...http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=61363

Ooo, forgot about Flowify.
This was much easier.

Model with step by step attached.

Awesome thanks! I did find a few issues with my model and started over and this time the alignment was perfect. Thanks for your help, I just sent it to the 3D printer and he said the file was good. PHEW! So excited to see the results. I realize this isn't something most people will need but it will be a huge thing for me. (long story what it is, not sure if people would be that interested!)

Thanks again, I really appreciate your help, that video was great and it was also super helpful seeing your file.

Lee

@jql said:

You've simplified the hole's geometry to a plane. That simplifies everything but doesn't bend the shape as it should. So there's no actual aproximation to what it is in reality and in my opinion doesn't solve the true issue in discussion.

However if it fits your objectives it's a perfect solution and congratulations are in order.

Even so, you could try this plugin here:

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=61363

yes exactly you are right... every time I would bend the geometry in the dome it would pull the edges and distort the thickness. Maybe this plugin would have worked, I will investigate it further and thanks for the suggestion!

[quote="boofredlay"]Here is the tutorial on Youtube: https://youtu.be/sQJoDYOCM0M

This is one way to do it. I am sure there are probably others.

Well it took me a while but I think this is the best I can do! I ended up using your method boofredlay, as the other way created a distorted pattern at the bottom which I couldn't fix, although I did find using the curve tool easier to get the shape. In the end I just couldn't fix it.

With your method, I couldn't smooth the edges at the end like you did, it just distorted all the cutouts... any suggestions? The file is 22M yikes! Here is the link if that helps: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9kzyhuvujywxho/pattern_v11_final.skp?dl=0

A huge thanks to you for your help and sharing ideas! I would never have even gotten this close without it!

Lee

@boofredlay said:

Have you tried the method I used in the video I posted up. That way allows for you to have your pattern along the taper at the bottom.

I started it but I couldn't get my pattern to match the top and bottom and have edges connect, I think I need to do the same pattern you did to make that work. I will try it!

Still making progress, I got my geometry all figured out, just need to accept the fact that I have to change the pattern as I go down. Maybe just a few simple leaves going back and forth for design and then of course I have to punch the holes. I am happy I got the pattern even just 2 rows of it at the top. Also hoping that I can round it off after I am done so it doesn't look so jagged.

Thanks again for your help and ideas, they have been very helpful! Still not done but getting there!

sorry I deleted this post and updated it below.

Well I am making progress but still issues that seem a bit too complicated for me to figure out. Maybe I need a more simple pattern.

Link to file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zovsd033cyixims/pattern_v4.skp?dl=0

@boofredlay said:

@jql said:

Check the following gif.

This is great JQL however when you have to trim the edges because of the overlap the original pattern is destroyed. I have been struggling with the right angle to make the shape "wedge" to a point so no trimming is necessary.

What if you trim the shape at the beginning with the original strip. Starting the trim at the same spot the shape starts to bend and then ending it at the width for the bottom circle ratio. It would possibly give a bit more control over the scaling of the pattern but the angle would only work if it was a uniform arc. Is this right?

@jql said:

Check the following gif.

I was just struggling with that part. Great how you used the bend tool again to create that triangular shape at the end. Lets see if I can pull it off now... lol

Using a single plugin: shape bender...[/quote]
JQL, how did you go from the step on the right to the one on the left?
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It looks like perhaps he scaled it to match the size of the triangle?

@jql said:

I used shape bender using the arc of rhe pie.

In the end there's cleaning up to do to reach the last step as shape bender wasn't able to compress the bottom center part to an edge.

When I bend my shape many of my petal cutouts get messed up, do you think it could be because I am working in real scale and I should start larger and then shrink it down? Yours stayed so perfect!

My real scale is bottom c=22cm top c=64cm height 24cm

@jql said:

@maclee said:

I was just about ready to give up...

Lee

Please don't... Stick around until the point you will be able to help others as others helped you.

The cycle must not stop

haha, right! I have a feeling I will be posting quite often... Sketchup is such a fun program to learn and even more so when you have people helping you when you get stuck!

@jql said:

The pattern isn't right but it was a 15 minute doodle.

Using a single plugin: shape bender. Some kind of steped tutorial inside Skp.

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Oh wow JQL another great idea! I tried shape bender originally but was going about it all wrong, I had created a kind of flattened pattern of it and then I tried to roll it up along the edge of the circumference, but that was a disaster as I couldn't get the pattern right. I even tried "unwrapping" the simple model to get the flattened object thinking that I could flatten it, punch the pattern in and then wrap it up again, but I couldn't get that plugin to work, it kept unwinding it for some reason instead of unwrapping it, so I gave up! lol

This is a very clever way of using the shape bender and then tapering that edge on the bottom, very smart! And very helpful also to share the .skp file. Thanks so much! Great to see the starting point with the tile.

This forum is GREAT! I was just about ready to give up...

Lee

@boofredlay said:

Here is the tutorial on Youtube: https://youtu.be/sQJoDYOCM0M

This is one way to do it. I am sure there are probably others.

Here are the plugins if you need them.

Joint Push Pull Interactive:
https://sketchucation.com/plugin/715-jointpushpull

Mirror:
https://sketchucation.com/plugin/762-mirror

Wow boofredlay, that is incredible. I will give it a try although I think I have to watch your video a few times! lol Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. I really helped seeing such a Pro tackle this concept that I have been thinking about for ages! Finally being so close is great! Now lets see if I can pull it off... lol

Thanks again and great work!

@boofredlay said:

This one stumped me but I think I figured out one way to do it. Here is an image of the finished object. I will try to post up a how to here soon...

OMG! That is IT! You are amazing. I am still struggling with this 3 days in... lol

Can't wait to see how you did it!

Thanks so much!

Lee

Hi there, does anybody know why I can't create a face in this object? I am trying to use the follow me tool around the circle to create a sort of cylinder but I can't get the face to show up. What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Lee

@pbacot said:

it has to be 3d pattern? , Cutouts? I am not sure how best to do the deformation (Flowify plugin? Shapebender?), but I think there needs to be a unique way this pattern fits, based on the size and for it to work it would be symmetrical. So I would, if it were me.... decide how I wanted the pattern to fit first of all, then work on a section that can be mirrored and duplicated. It may even seem to be half of pattern, if you know what I mean, so you are only working on a small slice that is repeatable by mirroring and rotating.

Depending on the scale, you'll be adding a lot of smaller detail, so probably making sure the object is large enough before you work on it will help SU which cannot make tiny faces and will help you be able to "manually" fix things as you go. You can scale it up then down to the right size in the end to print.

Okay so I have reached another wall. I had it all figured out in my head but I can't seem to make it work. I have created the pattern so that I can drape it over the curved edge (I have a square in this picture just to test it out). Then I was going to copy the curved surface to form a circle. The problem I am having is the drape won't work. I watched numerous videos and did exactly what you are supposed to but nothing seems to work. The drape function just doesn't work for me. What am I doing wrong? Does anybody have any advice to get this pattern to drape on the face? I must be missing something important.

Attached is an image of what I am trying to do and if you want to see for yourself here is the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vm3rrv9vit12pty/pattern_v3.skp?dl=0

I also tried draping from above, as a group and as a component, still nothing works...

Thanks for any help!

Lee

Oh I see what you mean, like create a linear rounded section that has all the elements of the pattern and then copy that via rotation until it forms a circle. Great idea! Now lets see if I can pull it off! lol

The actual piece has a circumference of 22cm on the bottom and 60 cm on the top, so would you suggest that I start larger than that and then scale down or is that a reasonable size for small faces?

Thanks again for the suggestion!

@kimi kimi said:

Maybe download some geodesic dome (that's built from triangles) and try to apply the pattern inside those triangles or on edges... Do that first and then do the top cylindrical part.

Thanks for your reply kimi kimi. I will give geodesic a try. I may have to use a different program to achieve this not sure yet!

Hi there! I could really use some guidance. I am very new to Sketchup. I am trying to "punch" the flower of life pattern into a 3mm thick cylinder shape. See attached images for details.

I can recreate the 3d flower shape in Sketchup but then can't figure out how to push it into all the sides towards the centre.

I also tried using the draw on surface tool to draw my own "petals" to punch out. I can get it to work however I have to draw each one separate as I can't copy and paste onto the face and it is difficult to reproduce the exact pattern every time.

Can anybody offer suggestions on how to pull this off?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Lee