Hi all

I am looking into doing some training in sketchup. I am a long time user and would rate my abilities as upper intermediate.

I have done some detailed models for my woodworking hobby and some basic floor plans using sketchup and layout for my work in school facilities management.

We are currently looking at changing the workflow in our office which may mean I am going to get some more modelling time at work.

I need to advance my skills into more advanced modelling, mainly site models, on terrain for visualisation of projects in the early stages with the client schools.

I have found two training providers in Aus...

http://www.procad.com.au/sketchup.htm

and

http://www.designworkshopsydney.com.au/sketchup-courses/

and was wondering if anyone could provide a review or other advice regarding these, or other organisations.

I am based near Sydney but I could travel for the right course.

Thanks Tig.

Hi all,

I am having some difficulty with SketchUcation Tools 2.6.0 on my work machine.

I am running

• Windows 7 SP1

• Sketchup Pro 2014 (14.1.1282)

• SketchUcation Tools 2.6.0 (SUT)

I installed the SUT plugin via the forum as per the video and all worked as expected.

Once installed, when I start sketchup I get the spinning blue circle for a long time (approx 2 mins). Once the SUT plugin has started however it runs ok without the hangup. I can log in with my forum username and start browsing the plugins.

When I try to install one of the plugins though, I receive an error message...

Now, I have tried to find a solution to this for a few days, but to no avail.

I have read through this thread and others and cannot find a solution. I have tried the following...

• I have checked the plugins folder location and permissions and they are set correctly ( iam an administrator on the machine anyway)

• I am using the default install location for sketchup itself and the plugins folder and I do not see a "Compatability Files" button at the top of the Windows Explorer interface when I'm in the plugins folder

• I have tried running sketchup as administrtor (despite being an admin) and no difference

• I have done a ctrl+f5 refresh of the SUT browser window

One thing I did notice, when I tried to close the SUT plugin browser window with the Ruby Console open, I experienced the long delay again and the following showed up in the console...

I have no idea really, but I suspect it is an issue with my company firewall as I have the same software installed on my home machine and it works fine. I can install plugins from the SUT manager and I do not suffer the spinning blue circle on start up.

Any help appreciated.

Precisely,

Dave, thank you.

I knew it would turn out to be an operator error, how embarrassing.

I will never live this down.

Hello all,

DaveR, thanks for pointing out that error. It has prompted a check on all elements and I am sure everything is now on an appropriate layer. Also, I have created another layer to hold all of the unchanged elements, instead of keeping them on the Default layer.

Mental and Trevor, I had a feeling that layer order was my problem, however I am only using one sketchup model with a couple of scenes within it.

Mike, thanks for your detailed response. Your analogy of the trace stack corresponded with what Mental and Trevor suggested. After creating my new permanent layer I then rearranged my layer order which has got most of the elements behaving properly. I am however still faced with the same problem with the room that is supposed to be visible on the proposed page is still only visible when viewed from the existing page with the proposed layer visible.

I also changed my sketchup viewports to vector and tried to move my stubbornly invisible element to the front of the stack order. It is at this point I could just delete this one element and redraw it and see if that works, however I would like to understand why this is not following the rules as I perceive them.

I have added the file again with my revised layer structure.

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Hi Tig,

As you are the only person to respond so far, I will reply to you directly.

I firstly must apologise for not explaining myself properly, I had been working on this problem for a while, it was late and I posted in desperation.

I was hoping that walking away and coming back to it today would solve the problem with fresh eyes and mind. Unfortunately this is not the case. I have reopened the file and am still experiencing the same problem.

What is the saying, a picture tells a thousand words...

fig. 1 Existing page, existing layer visible, proposed layer invisible.

As you can see from this image, I have a total of six layers

• existing - contains elements to be seen on existing page

• proposed - contains elements to be seen on proposed page

• Default - contains all the base linework from SU model that will be unchanged

• Unique Elements - page numbers

• Cover Page - cover page title block

• On Every Inside Page - inside page title block

On this page (Existing) things are displayed correctly as I would expect.

fig. 2 Proposed page, proposed layer visible, existing layer invisible. Not all of the wall should be invisible, the solid line portion on the previous pic is in the proposed layer.

On this page (Proposed) things start to go a bit wrong for me. Part of the internal wall in the circled room is on the proposed layer and should be visible.

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Fig 3. Existing page, both existing and proposed layers switched to visible. Element highlighted now visible and purporting to be on proposed layer.

Yet if I switch back to the Existing page and make the proposed layer visible, I can now see the element I am trying to show on the proposed page. As you can see this element is on the proposed layer, however it is never visible on the proposed layer, with the correct layer visibility settings in place.

Hopefully, this explanation is a bit more clear than my garbled effort last night and will prompt someone to look at the file and confirm I am doing something very wrong.

Regards

Rob

Sorry, I shouldnhave explained more fully, I am using a modified stock template which has the other layers you mentioned Tig.

I am just focusing on the two layers I mentioned previously as the other layers are functioning as expected.

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I am having trouble with layer visibility from page to page on the attached file.

I want to do a simple 2 page plan showing "Existing and Demolition on one page and "Proposed" on another page.

I have created some Layout elements and put them in an "existing layer" and some in a "proposed layer". As I view the "Existing" page I can see the correct stuff with the "existing layer" visible and proposed layer invisible, however when I switch to the "Proposed" page with the reverse of the above visibility settings, I can not see the elements which are on the "proposed layer".

I'm sure the above is as clear as mud.

Would someone be able to have a glance at the attached and offer some advice.

This is my first real bash at Layout, so go easy on me.

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