Do i need Crysis 2 the game to import my models into crytek 3???

@jmjohio said:

Recently a friend of mine submitted a request, see #87588 & #91544, regarding a model of mine that was downloaded from google 3d warehouse and offered for sale on your site by jessel sullivan. I go by the name JMJ-Ohio in the 3d warehouse. I do not know a jessel sullivan and gave no one authority to sell this model. Model in question is "Ford 427 V8 SOHC". Would you supply me details relative to the resolution of this issue.

Thank you,
Jim Jeffries

Hello,

I handled the case. We found that the model offered on the Google 3D Warehouse and the one on TurboSquid were the same. We took the model down and contacted the artist who posted it. The artist did not respond to our message and has been banned from TurboSquid.

Sincerely,
Kevin
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Jan-09 2012 13:09

But you would wonder was this model sold at any stage and if so how many times was it sold, i believe this goes on alot and i dont post my models on the warehouse for this sole reason, until there is a solution to this on going problem ill never post models on the warehouse, it also makes me wonder how many models from the google warehouse have being stolen and sold on turbosquid, or is stolen the right word to use since we upload our models for others to freely use, i was unaware su models could be imported into second life also, if we were to look trough the second life store what would we find there, for example if i owned a furniture shop in second life i could simply download every bit of furniture from the google warehouse and sell it for a price in second life, would i?? No, its wrong but there are people who would, second life is so big, i once read that a virtual house was sold in around $160,000 give or take, this is a booming virtual world and like in the real world there is crime, but is it a crime, for example in the real world if i want to get rid of a sofa i cold simply leave it outside and within a day or 2 some1 will take it, what they do with it is there problem not mine, if i upload a model in the warehouse its practically the same, what they do with the model isnt my problem, we can argue this forever and simply end back where we started, i agree i wouldnt like someone selling a model of mine on turbosquid or second life without my permision but if i load a model onto the warehouse its bound to happen, if there was a way you could copyright your models in su where a code is added to a model and this code could be viewed by turbosquid or secondlife administrators i think this would be the only way this problem could be solved, so what are your views on a way to copyright your models in su?? just an idea

Just downloaded it, fantastic, havent imported any SU material to it yet but looking forward to playing around with this tool, but since im new to Cryengine any suggestions on where to start

@gilles said:

@unknownuser said:

Ok, so should the architect get credited for his building you created in 3D form on a PC?

Yes. It is his masterpiece, he could hire you for modeling or built it, but it will always be his idea.

I totally agree

@gilles said:

If you create a model of something that didn't already exist you have intellectual property of it.
But if you model something that already exist you don't have any right on it. And you can't show or sell the model without express permission of the inventor.

Ok, so should the architect get credited for his building you created in 3D form on a PC? after all it was the architect who designed it, your simply copying it from reference pics, measurements and so on, i used pictures of a model, but not the model to replicate a model in SU, this is a gray area no matter what, i dont agree with people stealing models and selling them

Heres something i just tried, i looked for a car in SU Warehouse and found this Aston Martin DBR9, grenn in colour, with some yellow, search it on the warehouse, then look at this on turbosquid for $49 -

turbosquid.com

(www.turbosquid.com)

exactly the same, is this a stolen model?? infact everything on SU warehouse can also be found on turbosquid for a price, very gray area indeed

Just another note i think should be added, im totally against other people using others models and claiming them as their own, dont get me wrong, im not all for this carry on, i do believe credit should be given to those who create these models

Yes i see, heres another example, if i were to construct a model from the beginning while using anothers as reference, then would credit need to be used, heres an example, i browsed turbosquid for a Afgan town, and found pictures of a town from all angles, so i used these pictures and made a reconstruction of the town in SU, the Afgan town was on sale for $500 on turbo squid, now should i claim the modelling is mine or should i give credit to the modeller on turbosquid?? please bare in mind im not using these models to profit and i dont have them on display over the net, i just usedd this model as a test to see if i could make a reconstruction in SU

this is a gray area, i myself dont sell my models or claim someone elses models are mine, but i often download models from the warehouse and modify the models and makng them different in many ways, i add and take things out of them, its simply using work others have uploaded to the warehouse to speed up the process for me, out of interest would i be wrong in claiming this model as mine even tho it doesnt resemble the original model????

Can you give a list of plugins you used to create this model

That is impressive

Wow thanks Llyod, im honoured that you used my Barn concept for game design during your presentation. The print up of my barn concept in each stage was very well presented and informative and your layout was very clear. Thanks for the feedback and im glad my work is inspiring these students

@jm2 said:

@iichiversii said:

Whow this looks great, but just out of interest how does the results look in SU, anyone have any examples that they can post for us to view???

It's quick and dirty, but this is an example of what can be produced using the displacement maps from ShaderMap Pro. I exaggerated the DISP so you can see it better. I'm thoroughly pleased with it

Now thats impressive, for the price it seems well worth the purchase, Cheers JM2 for the example

Whow this looks great, but just out of interest how does the results look in SU, anyone have any examples that they can post for us to view???

Ok got it to work, and works well, just 1 problem tho, it doesnt work with any animation plugins in SU, for example keyframe and su animate, but there is always a way, right Rich??

Its ok, I think i got this Rich...

When the message window appears after you click download "Load this directly into your sketchup model" click on NO, Then open, your download will download into a new Sketchup space and yuor window will remain open, hope that helps

While looking for a plugin for SU to export 3d video i came across this http://www.3d.imagefact.de/ its in German but you know yourself just use the translate in the webbrowser, to the point i installed the plugin and tried it out but getting nowhere with it, i looked for tutorials and nothing either, anyone out there have experiance with this plugin please ad a step by step tutorial on how to use it

@roidsan said:

I'm sorry, I know better than to use acronyms. I never know what they are so I shouldn't be using them.

NDA is "Non-disclosure Agreement" and would mean that you could not disclose the name of the game or the company/developer that commissioned your work. I will be showing your work to some of my students who will be at a dinner tomorrow, and they always want to know who, what, when and where. To reiterate, if you are not able to give any of that information, it is perfectly cool, because I can say "I asked", and they understand when there is an NDA it's not available.

My first model was posted in Sept, it's at
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=39872

Keep up the good work.

Lloyd

out of interest Lloyd did you use my Barn concept in your leacture and if so may i ask what was the response??

I think this is a fab idea, i too ave a trackpad which is gathering dust from lack of use ut it sure would be great to use for SU, i too would like to back this idea and see some sort of plugin