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    Mike Amos
    last edited by TIG 1 Mar 2025, 13:18 2 Jan 2025, 23:04

    OK, something as old as the hills perhaps.

    Used to be uninstall and the reinstall one at a time until the problem plugin is found.

    I am trying to get a copy of the bugsplat to see if this can be shortcut especially with the bundles system.

    It might also be of use to plugin writers perhaps.

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      Mike Amos
      last edited by 3 Jan 2025, 17:48

      Can anyuone point me at a method to read bugsplat reports please?

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        slbaumgartner
        last edited by 4 Jan 2025, 19:38

        You can see what is sent in the BugSplat by clicking the view details button on the report dialog. The details are very technical, basically an OS crash dump report, so not useful to anyone who is not an expert. Also, if the crash is due to an issue with a Ruby extension, although one can sometimes verify that Ruby was the cause, it is not possible to tell which specific extension was responsible. Further, there is often an interaction between extensions to blame but the crash report only tells you about what one of them was doing at the time.

        Uninstalling half at a time is a much more efficient process than doing it one at a time. Basically log2(n) vs n.

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          Mike Amos
          last edited by 5 Jan 2025, 10:21

          Thanks, appreciated.

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            Mike Amos
            last edited by 10 Jan 2025, 20:49

            Extrusion tools appears to be the culprit.

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              TIG Moderator @Mike Amos
              last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 00:09

              @Mike-Amos
              Do you have the latest version of my Extrusion Tools installed ?
              If so what are you trying to do when it 'splats' ??
              It shouldn't clash with anything else when it's not in use, so it seems to be something you are trying to do...
              Several of its functions were superseded with the superior Fredo6 tools like CurviLoft...

              TIG

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                Mike Amos
                last edited by Mike Amos 1 Nov 2025, 00:27 11 Jan 2025, 00:22

                I have the latest version installed. I use extrude edges by rails because it gives more control over the result than curviloft. I do use both from time to time to see which gives best results on different car parts. For the creation of front wing units I prefer Extrude tools for the most part.

                For some reason just lately after I select no to delete the original lines, instant bugsplat. There is however another piece of odd behaviour where setting markers with the measuring tool, I will see two dotted lines when i finish using the tool.

                Not sure where the issue lies tbh. Graphics card glitch?Extrude Tools Lines.jpg

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                  Mike Amos
                  last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 00:33

                  I have tried this with simpler models and it is 100% repeatable.

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                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 13:39

                    Extrude Tools - if you select yes to delete the original lines, is it then splat free ?
                    I assume you refer to the native measuring tool - are you 'toggling' between guide liens and points [which will have a short guide attached] ?

                    TIG

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                      Mike Amos
                      last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 17:17

                      Not toggling and deleting original lines results in bugsplat too.

                      The guidelines thing is something I notice happens, a 'lag' when I finish setting the guidelines.

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                        TIG Moderator @Mike Amos
                        last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 18:21

                        @Mike-Amos
                        So to be clear...
                        When you use the EEbyRails and it gets to the prompt to keep or delete the original lines it splats in v24 - irrespective of which choice you make....

                        I've retested it and can't get the same issue - .

                        If you open the Ruby Console and retry the EEbyRails are there any error messages at all, before the 'splat' ?

                        TIG

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                          Mike Amos @TIG
                          last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 20:00

                          @TIG Rub y 1.jpg

                          Rub y 2.jpg

                          Tried twice, this is all I havbe seen.

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                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by TIG 1 Nov 2025, 21:55 11 Jan 2025, 21:50

                            So you have another extension loading which causes the issue !
                            MX
                            Which in turn has a Util module
                            which sets an object camera on
                            Relating to Sketchup::Page.
                            It then has unloading Fire data load
                            Resulting in 1AA Also Extended Cut
                            Which are all called by OnActiveModelChanged

                            Or to put it more simply...

                            You have an extension which creates a module called
                            MX
                            This adds an observer to the model
                            OnActiveModelChanged
                            This seems to run all the time - perhaps activating as the extension is loaded.
                            When the model changes something happens with its code as it looks at pages [scenes], and it can cause a BugSplat.

                            So it's not directly related to Extrude Tools at all - a 3rd party extension is hijacking your model and splatting when something happens in another extension...

                            Search through your extensions and find one setting up module MX - that's the real culprit.

                            TIG

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                              Mike Amos
                              last edited by 11 Jan 2025, 23:00

                              I thank you, Sir.

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                                Mike Amos
                                last edited by 14 Jan 2025, 16:18

                                Maxwell render. I have spoken to next limit, no solution.

                                I saved the file post extrude, before doing anything else and the file save OK WITH the extrusion.

                                1AA Also Extended Cut Save post Extrude..jpg

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                                  Mike Amos
                                  last edited by 14 Jan 2025, 17:59

                                  It worked once, not again.

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                                    Mike Amos
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 09:55

                                    OK, went with the next limit suggestion of disabling maxwell render, none of these methods worked so I removed maxwell render completely. Extrusion tools now works perfectly well.
                                    Waiting for next limit to come up with a fix but not holding my breath.

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                                      Mike Amos
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 17:58

                                      OK, Transmutr failing now. Completely removed sketchup. Nothing left for the time being.

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                                        Mike Amos
                                        last edited by 16 Jan 2025, 09:29

                                        OK, reinstalled, when I got to installing curviloft and cleanup, Sketchup opened slowly. I disabled those two plugins and SKetchup opens normally. Not tried Transmutr yet.

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                                          Mike Amos
                                          last edited by 16 Jan 2025, 10:02

                                          Transmutr from within SKetchup will open, but does not import the transmuted file, simply transmutes it.

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