More Fredo6 plugins becoming paid extensions
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@dave r said:
The old free version of Round Corner won't change and neither will SketchUp 2017 so it you don't update the extension there's no reason to expect it to stop functioning. Your profile indicates you are using a Mac. Since you aren't insterested in updating SketchUp you'd best not update the Mac OS. Many users are reporting that older versions of SketchUp don't work on the newer Mac OS versions.
Fix your profile already.
Unfortunately in my case the old free version of Round Corner has decided it is no longer free. Other users have reported the same. Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use. As for Sketchup, the 2017 version works fine on Catalina thankfully and I do not plan to upgrade further. And no need to "fix my profile" since I have another machine with Sketchup 2016, but thanks for the suggestion.
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Well, sorry, I guess we can't do anything further for you.
@unknownuser said:
Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use.
I guess you shouldn't have done that.
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@dave r said:
Well, sorry, I guess we can't do anything further for you.
@unknownuser said:
Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use.
I guess you shouldn't have done that.
I guess not. Clever Fredo.
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As I wrote before, you are certainly welcome to find other extensions to use instead of Fredo's or write your own. Fredo has put in a lot of work to make and improve his extensions. You've benefitted from that work, too. The price of the Round Corner extension license is a trivial amount. If your time is worth anything at all, I'm sure Round Corner has saved you enough time already to have more than paid for it.
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@dave r said:
As I wrote before, you are certainly welcome to find other extensions to use instead of Fredo's or write your own. Fredo has put in a lot of work to make and improve his extensions. You've benefitted from that work, too. The price of the Round Corner extension license is a trivial amount. If your time is worth anything at all, I'm sure Round Corner has saved you enough time already to have more than paid for it.
Absolutely. Fredo's extensions have helped masses of people and he deserves to make money from his new and updated extensions now that he has decided to charge. But I'm not alone in thinking old extensions for old versions of Sketchup that were offered for free at the time should not have their functionality removed.
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It's what it is. Write your own extensions and then you won't have to deal with it.
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@dave r said:
It's what it is. Write your own extensions and then you won't have to deal with it.
Great idea Dave, hadn't thought of that. Should I charge or offer them for free?
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@johnbutler222 said:
Should I charge or offer them for free? Well I guess I can always change my mind down the road.
It doesn't matter to me. If you write an extension that saves me substantial amount of time I would be willing to pay for it. I'm not against paying others for their good work. I guess you do your work for free and think others should do the same.
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@johnbutler222 said:
Yes, help would certainly be appreciated. Do you know of a way to ensure the free version of Round Corner remains functional in Sketchup 2017? Thanks.
I don't know of a way to do that without a willingness to learn ruby to a very advanced level.
BTW Fredo's tools were never free. They were donationware which is a form of licensing model. TIG uses it, SamuelT uses it, Thomthom uses it....I could go on.
Feel free to vent your displeasure. But expect to be met with equal displeasure from users who support Fredo's, and others, move to a commercial model.
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@rich o brien said:
@johnbutler222 said:
Yes, help would certainly be appreciated. Do you know of a way to ensure the free version of Round Corner remains functional in Sketchup 2017? Thanks.
I don't know of a way to do that without a willingness to learn ruby to a very advanced level.
BTW Fredo's tools were never free. They were donationware which is a form of licensing model. TIG uses it, SamuelT uses it, Thomthom uses it....I could go on.
Feel free to vent your displeasure. But expect to be met with equal displeasure from users who support Fredo's, and others, move to a commercial model.
That's completely untrue. They were free. In the code it even says "Permission to use this software for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted"
I'm perfectly calm, it's you that comes across a little hostile. You're free act like that, but try not to spread false information while doing so. -
A look at the repo here will show which authors use donationware and which don't...
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Not sure how you derived hostility from what I wrote? The only thing that's bothering me at the moment is fuel and energy prices.
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I think it was Socrates that first said something along the lines of, give it to them free and they will complain forever, make them pay and they'll defend you forever.
Free is free, free now is now, things change and rightly so.
The part of this I find most odd is that someone could spend a whole day on it.
The forum guidelines unfortunately stop me from saying what I would like to say.
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@box said:
I think it was Socrates that first said something along the lines of, give it to them free and they will complain forever, make them pay and they'll defend you forever.
Free is free, free now is now, things change and rightly so.
The part of this I find most odd is that someone could spend a whole day on it.
The forum guidelines unfortunately stop me from saying what I would like to say.
Good luck to you and your infinite freebee world.I think Socrates would have objected if he had been given something for free and then it was taken back from him. Any reasonable person would.
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After more than a decade of giving away his plugins, with the hope that enough people would donate to make it viable, Fredo made the decision to go commercial. He had to choose a cutoff point. He chose 2017 and up as commercial. He could and should have chosen Sketchup 8.
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@box said:
After more than a decade of giving away his plugins, with the hope that enough people would donate to make it viable, Fredo made the decision to go commercial. He had to choose a cutoff point. He chose 2017 and up as commercial. He could and should have chosen Sketchup 8.
Your comments are at best Venting. They have no other value.This isn't a question of whether Fredo is entitled to go commercial. Of course he is. And I wish him great success. The issue is the removal of functionality from old plugins that were offered for free at the time. It raises questions about what terms such as "free" mean, and if perhaps context should be added to the word if that word is used when there is a potential for it have an expiration date.
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Get a life.
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@box said:
Get a life.
It's really amazing to see how some people have all this time to waste complaining about a $ 40 request compared to all the time these extensions save you.
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@panixia said:
@box said:
Get a life.
It's really amazing to see how some people have all this time to waste complaining about a $ 40 request compared to all the time these extensions save you.
Again, missing the point entirely. No one is complaining about paying for things. It's about things being given and then retracted. It's wrong, period.
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Hi
I work in education and we purchased a Perpetual Licence for Fred-o-Scale back in June / July. However, now it says we have to update the plugin, in effect making the old Fred-o-Scale unusable... is this correct or am I missing something?
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