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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
      last edited by

      Here's a very basic SUbD version.


      Twist shelf.gif

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      • pbacotP Offline
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        Thanks Box! it seems that if you know what to draw for the proxy(?), SubD would be fast. I haven't got into it. This is one of the few organic challenges I have had in work projects. I do need to do terrain modeling, however. I wonder if SubD could be used in that. Or do you use it in puffy furniture?

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          I would lean towards Curviloft and SUbD to arrive at the final form...

          pbacot-twisted-shelf.skp

          https://i.imgur.com/mnkcK17.png

          To create the initial rails to loft I did use Vertex Tools with a soft falloff to pinch the rails as needed...

          https://i.imgur.com/c6VqSxf.png

          ...making the curved portions had identical segments counts so topology remained even.

          With some UV mapping and 2 levels of subdivision you get somewhat close.

          https://i.imgur.com/H4SR6Zw.png

          Dave's version is yum!

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          • Dave RD Offline
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            @rich o brien said:

            Dave's version is yum!

            Not as yummy as yours, though.

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            • pilouP Offline
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              FredoScale 2.0 itself is not sufficient : Slicer + Twist + Bend ? (with little sections resize)

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              • pbacotP Offline
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                @pilou said:

                FredoScale 2.0 itself is not sufficient : Slicer + Twist + Bend ? (with little sections resize)

                I tried a lot with Fredoscale. I couldn't figure out how to make it work. Then I turned to drawing rails in 3d.

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
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                  @rich o brien said:

                  I would lean towards Curviloft and SUbD to arrive at the final form...

                  Thanks Rich. So it seems you start with a rough profile, easier to work out, Curviloft that. How do you get the extra edges around the border? Then you texture it, how?

                  I tried Artisan to smooth your model, and it did pretty well but took the texture off . With Artisan Brush I got the texture back on, and it looks OK (on the top of the model anyway--back is a mess, but you can't see it).

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                  • Rich O BrienR Online
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                    @pbacot said:

                    Thanks Rich. So it seems you start with a rough profile, easier to work out, Curviloft that. How do you get the extra edges around the border?

                    Yes, CurviLoft > LoftbySpline with segments set to 1 for the main top face...

                    https://i.imgur.com/DTGfaPR.png

                    Next is JointPushPull to thicken and then I use QFT > Select Ring to select top ring and QFT > Connect Edges with the following for Segments/Pinch...

                    https://i.imgur.com/P1OCdUV.png

                    ...to add holding edges. Repeat this for the shelf edge...

                    https://i.imgur.com/FClIvOh.png

                    Run SUbD at 2 levels to test form...

                    https://i.imgur.com/xzEOUz6.png

                    @pbacot said:

                    Then you texture it, how?

                    When I'm happy with the form I return to the proxy and add UV seams and UV unwrap with WrapR...

                    https://i.imgur.com/bX5Onlm.png

                    ...and import the UVs back the SketchUp.

                    https://i.imgur.com/oJOS50i.png

                    You can now replace the checker texture with a seamless wood image or send the mesh the Substance Painter to texture in there.

                    https://i.imgur.com/qQOOS41.png

                    As a side note, SUbD has support for WrapR attributes and likewise WrapR supports SUbD attritbutes so running a subdivision on the proxy will maintain UVs. πŸ‘

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      Excellent!

                      I also try to do some things with QFT but I really know how to use it effectively. I don't know of any tutorials and the tool tips don't show for it, on my system at least.

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                      • Rich O BrienR Online
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                        @pbacot said:

                        I also try to do some things with QFT but I really know how to use it effectively. I don't know of any tutorials and the tool tips don't show for it, on my system at least.

                        It's a particular workflow you adopt over time. To me its my most used extension for SketchUp. I forgot to mention it because I've so many functions as shortcuts I tend to forget its not in vanilla SU.

                        Hope that info helps you make this model yourself at some point. It's a really good case study for anyone interested in organic form etc.

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Sorry what is "QFT" ? 😳

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • pbacotP Offline
                            pbacot
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                            @rich o brien said:

                            Hope that info helps you make this model yourself at some point. It's a really good case study for anyone interested in organic form etc.

                            Yes I got a lot of good ideas from this!. I'd love to learn more about QFT somehow.

                            I also enjoyed using Bezier Surface and learned a lot about it--though I'm still at trial and error level with it. I used your video for pointers!

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                            • TIGT Offline
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                              @Pilou

                              QFT == Quad Face Tools

                              TIG

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                              • HornOxxH Offline
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                                πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ A great post overall and a beautiful and manageable model work on top of that!
                                I'd have been probably "dotting" between all the approaches shown here and probably would have tried them all side by side to see what came out.
                                Dave's suggestion with TIG's Extrude Edges by Rails is unknown to me so far - so I'll look at that tool first.

                                never trust a skinny cook

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
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                                  Ok for the QFT ! 😳

                                  Other direction πŸ˜„
                                  Maybe ShapeBender or FlowiFy can be used! πŸ˜‰

                                  https://images2.imgbox.com/72/56/aasXdMuH_o.gif

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                    C'est magnifique!

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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