SketchUp 2018
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for all future versions - all the plugins developed by the community over the years are now essentially behind a trimble pay wall. zoink
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anybody know if there is more detailed info on the updates and how they work (tutorial video perhaps) been having a play this morning, can't see what use the new layout functions perform just by reading the little blurb they put out on the release notes.
Also any way to know if the plugins that i had previously from plugin warehouse will work with 2018.
I just hope this version is not a glitch filled monster like 2017 was.
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@juju said:
Your profile states you're using SketchUp2015 Make, for product design.
Please clarify how the product design would not be a breach of the Make license?
Apart from your obvious disheartened replies here about the new release, what does SketchUp have to offer you that has you keep on using it?
Juju, what my profile states may be obsolete/untrue/incomplete/incorrect... you, relying on that, when making a comment to my post shows that you are more focused to attack the person, than to debate the issue.
You don't know what I am using and for what. For your information, I am using licensed software for my professional work and my status wasn't updated in many years.
As for my "disheartened" replies, I have neither love nor hatred about the new release. I have a bit of disappointment, yes (and I made my reasons rather clear and objective, as much as I could)...and I am evaluating if it's worth paying a license upgrade for 2018... for now the balance inclines against it. I was trying to focus on facts, as much as I could, but now I have to respond to personal attacks, which is a waste of time. -
@derei said:
@juju said:
Your profile states you're using SketchUp2015 Make, for product design.
Please clarify how the product design would not be a breach of the Make license?
Apart from your obvious disheartened replies here about the new release, what does SketchUp have to offer you that has you keep on using it?
Juju, what my profile states may be obsolete/untrue/incomplete/incorrect... you, relying on that, when making a comment to my post shows that you are more focused to attack the person, than to debate the issue.
You don't know what I am using and for what. For your information, I am using licensed software for my professional work and my status wasn't updated in many years.
As for my "disheartened" replies, I have neither love nor hatred about the new release. I have a bit of disappointment, yes (and I made my reasons rather clear and objective, as much as I could)...and I am evaluating if it's worth paying a license upgrade for 2018... for now the balance inclines against it. I was trying to focus on facts, as much as I could, but now I have to respond to personal attacks, which is a waste of time.well, for the benefit of all, please update your profile
you still have not stated / confirmed your SketchUp use...
I am asking because I am tired of people having a lot to say about something they have paid absolutely zero for, specifically when they are using said software for commercial purposes / against license terms. When you are paying for something, I would support that you have a foot to stand on when complaining. If not, I would not pay complaints much attention as they are merely comments from a person who isn't contributing to the R&D costs of the product.
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but it seems that the "make" version does not continue. just my.scketchup online
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Deleting new versions of make probly saved me $1000 as I was looking at up dating my computer as reqired to run 2017 and beyound. I will use 2015 ( never got comfortable with the newer UI) for my woodshop hoby. As I created some plugins and several others. I would urge all users that want to continue with make version to dowload and save the install files some where safe for future use if nrecessary.
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Make users do not have any reason to complain anything concerning the use of a software donated to them for FREE with (unfortunately) nearly the same core feature set of the commercial Pro version!
As already elaborated above, SU initally was made by @Last primarily for and dedicated to architects, nothing else.
Comparing SU with Blender shows not being aware of the differences in 3D modeling for construction purposes compared with a modeler for modeling this fancy stuff in the area of Digital Content Creation... sure, both are 3D modelers... and the learning curve of SU is still lightyears flatter than Blender.
Comparing the effort to enhance the rectangle tool with a full blown U-V mapping in your other concerning post, c'mon, your surely kiddin'
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What the heck link did you guys click on to update to the 2018 version?
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@ntxdave said:
What the heck link did you guys click on to update to the 2018 version?
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@sketch3d.de said:
Comparing the effort to enhance the rectangle tool with a full blown U-V mapping in your other concerning post, c'mon, your surely kiddin'
So do you think that writing some decent mapping tools instead of the useless rectangle was impossible.
Meanwhile there are tons of plugs free or very inexpensive (Trupaint, SketchUV,Wraper..) which sorted the problem.. Same goes for other ESSENTIALS modeling features sorted by plugins (SubD, Artisan, Vertex Tools, Curviloft, Flowify, Profile Builder, Skatter..).
But we still have to read the same story "too difficult blablabla" "full-blown blablabla" over and over again.
Then, you're right.. I'm kidding. -
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@panixia said:
So do you think that writing some decent mapping tools instead of the useless rectangle was impossible.
I did neither said nor meant this but have referenced to comparing the effort for developing a small improvement of an exiting tool with a complete new functionality by 'derei':
@derei said:
Another questionable improvement would be rectangle draw... which whilst "it may" have its usefulness, the impact of having a fancy modifier when drawing a rectangle is rather small, compared with a better uv-mapping, to say so.
@panixia said:
Meanwhile there are tons of plugs free or very inexpensive (Trupaint, SketchUV,Wraper..) which sorted the problem.. Same goes for other ESSENTIALS modeling features sorted by plugins (SubD, Artisan, Vertex Tools, Curviloft, Flowify, Profile Builder, Skatter..).
because they are free/inexpensive they do not have required a lot of effort to develop?
sure, ESSENTIALS for you but surely not for the standard non-power user... which are btw often commercial users in comparison to forum regulars demanding to develop a Revit/Rhino/Blender clone, for free of course...
But we still have to read the same story "easy peasy development" "why no multi-threading" "long overdue" "I will leave the ship" over and over again.
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Will not accept my license code. How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
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@sketch3d.de said:
because they are free/inexpensive they do not have required a lot of effort to develop?
Of course they had.
Given this i can't figure why Trimble don't buy at least some of them. I suspect it would be more time/cost effective and would allow a better integration and better performances (being able to access to the core instead of rely on the API).
3dsmax sort of follows this concept, they buy the best plugins and integrate them over the years..
I don't mean that sketchup should have al the feature max has (i love Sketchup and I'm not a fan of Autodesk actually), but.. you know, we are in 2017 (well actually trimble is in 2018) and "Freecad" has a native loft function. Sketchup doesn't, but it does have the rotated rectangle. -
@ntxdave said:
How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
depends where you have bought, i.e. directly from Trimbel or from a local reseller, in the first case Trimble will email you the new license data soon if not already done, in the latter the local reseller... which may need some hours resp. until tomorrow... they do have a lot of work today
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You could also click on the renew option, enter your serial and a new one for SU2018 will be generated.
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@ntxdave said:
Will not accept my license code. How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
I received my new serial direct from my reseller this afternoon. I suspect you will get the same email at some point over the next 24hrs.
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@panixia said:
Given this i can't figure why Trimble don't buy at least some of them.
what makes you think they SU aren't open to this?
how many plugin authors do you know who have approached SU with an offer to sell their IP?
as far as I'm aware, 3D text was a plugin that was purchased and incorporated...
Rotated Rectangle was a plugin which is now incorporated...
STL was a plugin which is now incorporated...
the new API also has a major change for working with textures...
SketchUp PRO 2018
I think this is a great release with lots of improvements for extension developers as well as Pro users… heres a sample of one new ‘under the hood’ feature that would kill v17… that’s a 200MB image sequence… may be …
SketchUp Community (forums.sketchup.com)
your UV editing may not be too far off [even if it's a bit niche]...
in my opinion, the demise of Make shows SU's commitment to it's paying customers...
the development of Free shows SU's commitment to it's non-paying customers...
An API for Free is on the agenda, so there will be possibilities for extension developers...
john
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Anti-aliasing works on Mac again!
And the improved tape measure is purely AWESOME!
Cheers.
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