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    • ntxdaveN Offline
      ntxdave
      last edited by

      @box said:

      That was the last thing I thought you would ask.
      The materials editor of sketchup, select the material and hit the edit tab.
      Then you can change the colour and how transparent it is.

      That is what I thought but I was making sure.

      When I go try to do it myself, there will probably be more. Stay tuned 😎

      My next guess is that I will have problems with the body of the wine.........

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      • ntxdaveN Offline
        ntxdave
        last edited by

        I took an existing model (not a good one) that I had had problems with before and tried some of the things Box had pointed out. Well, I got the glass showing up the way I wanted it but the background is a mess. Here is the render I created and a screen shot of all of the Twilight settings.
        SillySample-9.jpg
        Notice how the background is a mess. I also tried a single background color and it did not come out correctly either. In particular, notice the grainy top portion of the background.
        I have not even tried putting anything other that the silly objects inside the glass.

        Here are the Twilight settings (notice there are no lights in the model).
        Twilight Hobby Settings

        Welcome all suggestions on how to get the background to come out right/better. I am satisfied that I now understand how to control the glass itself. Thanks Box you gave me the tips.......... πŸ‘

        I have attached the skp file as well.........


        SillySample.skp

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        • H Offline
          hvanessen
          last edited by

          SillySample.jpg

          a quick test with a different background

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          • H Offline
            hvanessen
            last edited by

            and the one on a wooden floor
            wood floor

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            • ntxdaveN Offline
              ntxdave
              last edited by

              @hvanessen said:

              and the one on a wooden floor

              I tried a of floor too but did not get it to work right either. Would you mind sharing you background info and the various settings?

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              • ntxdaveN Offline
                ntxdave
                last edited by

                Well - I finally made some progress.

                Here is latest effort:
                Silly Glass Sample

                Now off to go back to the original challenge and draw the glass (and maybe a bottle) with liquid content.

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  at bigmanwashes they certainly have some big ass glasses!

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                  • ntxdaveN Offline
                    ntxdave
                    last edited by

                    @rich o brien said:

                    at bigmanwashes they certainly have some big ass glasses!

                    Not big glasses, just small blowers ❗

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                    • J Offline
                      JGA
                      last edited by

                      Is your background just an HDR image, rather than a physical plane?

                      Regards,
                      JGA

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                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                        ntxdave
                        last edited by

                        @jga said:

                        Is your background just an HDR image, rather than a physical plane?

                        In this particular case, yes.

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                        • ntxdaveN Offline
                          ntxdave
                          last edited by

                          My latest endeavor.......
                          WineGlass.jpg
                          Still not exactly what I want but getting closer.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            It's a funny result! β˜€

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • ntxdaveN Offline
                              ntxdave
                              last edited by

                              @pilou said:

                              It's a funny result! β˜€

                              Yep, it sure is. 😲

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                              • tuna1957T Offline
                                tuna1957
                                last edited by

                                Dave C. , Stumbled across your post today. Twilight user also and you peaked my curiosity. Never have done the
                                glass of wine business so figured why not. Built and textured my glass like Massimo shows ( thanks
                                for posting that Pilou ! ) .Below I've listed how I set things up.

                                Materials , Wine Glass - Snow , TW - glass / common
                                Top of wine - Indian Red 12% opacity , TW - glass / water
                                Side of wine - Fire Brick 12% opacity , TW - glass / water
                                Backdrop - Cool Grey #4 , TW - paint / eggshell

                                TW render preset - 08 Exterior Daytime Progressive

                                TW Sun Settings - Physical Sky , Brightness - .800 , Haze - 20% , Sun Strength - 3.0
                                Gave the sun a very light yellow color. all other settings left at default levels.

                                Let the render run for 100 passes. It took about 19 minutes. Probably as good as it will get with this setup. Need to
                                try some shots in an interior studio setup. Better chance of playing with lighting and use some other objects for
                                reflections and such. Good luck and just keep working with TW you'll get better with practice. Thanks for the kick to
                                do something a little different with SU & TW than I usually do. It was a nice change of pace.


                                wineglass render.jpg

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                                • H Offline
                                  hvanessen
                                  last edited by

                                  Very good, andere cheers πŸ’š

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                                  • ntxdaveN Offline
                                    ntxdave
                                    last edited by

                                    Well, here is my latest try............
                                    WineGlass-2.jpg
                                    The wine does not really show up in the render but otherwise, it is acceptable.

                                    I have done a bunch of tries and just do not seem to get it right. I have also attached the SU file if anyone wants to take a look at tell me how to adjust it more properly.


                                    WineGlass-2.skp

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      Dave, scale is important when trying to get accurate materials, the above is way too big, try reducing it to accurate size before rendering.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                                        ntxdave
                                        last edited by

                                        @solo said:

                                        Dave, scale is important when trying to get accurate materials, the above is way too big, try reducing it to accurate size before rendering.

                                        I scaled the glass down to the correct size and rerendered using most of tuna1957's settings (not all).
                                        WineGlass-2a.jpg
                                        Still does not match what it seems like everyone else is able to do. Either I am expecting too much or I just do not get it. I am failing miserable at this challenge.

                                        I am open to suggestions or if someone who has done this successfully would like to share your SU file (with Twilight settings) for me to study, I would really appreciate it. 😑

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                                        • tuna1957T Offline
                                          tuna1957
                                          last edited by

                                          Dave, Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard πŸ’š On a serious note try not to get to frustrated.
                                          I'm no expert at this either. I remember having days I wanted to jab pencils in my head sitting at my keyboard trying
                                          figure this stuff out. I've been messing about and tweaking settings and such. Posting another pic of a "rocks glass". Was going to tweak on your model but I'm still working in SU2015. If you'd like I'll post my rocks glass model so you can get in and check out how the materials and sun is set up.


                                          rocks glass_Scene 2.jpg

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                                          • olisheaO Offline
                                            olishea
                                            last edited by

                                            is your index of refraction too high Dave? It looks like extremely thick glass (even though we know it is not)

                                            keep going!! You'll nail it soon.

                                            oli

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