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    • ntxdaveN Offline
      ntxdave
      last edited by

      Thanks Pilou. I can draw the glass although it is nice to see these instructions which I will study.

      My biggest problem is with the rendering. I cannot get the color or transparency to work correctly for me. That is why I ask for the Twilight settings for the glass. Not doing well in that part at tall.

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      • BoxB Online
        Box
        last edited by

        Here's a very quick one.
        Background is a flat bottomed bowl, painted with snow, set to Plastic/Satin.
        Glass is translucent glass grey with all the colour edited out, set to Glass/Common.
        Top surface of the wine is Maroon with it's opacity dropped to 11, set as Glass/Common
        The body of the wine is Firebrick opacity also dropped to 11, Set to Liquid/Water

        Then rendered with preset .04 Medium with the environment setting a shown.
        There is a great deal of room for improvement of this, but just giving you the exact settings as they are.


        WineEnviro.JPG

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave
          last edited by

          Thanks Box - that is the type of feedback I was hoping for. However, I have a question:

          @box said:

          Glass is translucent glass grey with all the colour edited out, set to Glass/Common.

          Where/how did you edit out the color?

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          • BoxB Online
            Box
            last edited by

            That was the last thing I thought you would ask.
            The materials editor of sketchup, select the material and hit the edit tab.
            Then you can change the colour and how transparent it is.

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            • ntxdaveN Offline
              ntxdave
              last edited by

              @box said:

              That was the last thing I thought you would ask.
              The materials editor of sketchup, select the material and hit the edit tab.
              Then you can change the colour and how transparent it is.

              That is what I thought but I was making sure.

              When I go try to do it myself, there will probably be more. Stay tuned 😎

              My next guess is that I will have problems with the body of the wine.........

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              • ntxdaveN Offline
                ntxdave
                last edited by

                I took an existing model (not a good one) that I had had problems with before and tried some of the things Box had pointed out. Well, I got the glass showing up the way I wanted it but the background is a mess. Here is the render I created and a screen shot of all of the Twilight settings.
                SillySample-9.jpg
                Notice how the background is a mess. I also tried a single background color and it did not come out correctly either. In particular, notice the grainy top portion of the background.
                I have not even tried putting anything other that the silly objects inside the glass.

                Here are the Twilight settings (notice there are no lights in the model).
                Twilight Hobby Settings

                Welcome all suggestions on how to get the background to come out right/better. I am satisfied that I now understand how to control the glass itself. Thanks Box you gave me the tips.......... πŸ‘

                I have attached the skp file as well.........


                SillySample.skp

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                • H Offline
                  hvanessen
                  last edited by

                  SillySample.jpg

                  a quick test with a different background

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                  • H Offline
                    hvanessen
                    last edited by

                    and the one on a wooden floor
                    wood floor

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                    • ntxdaveN Offline
                      ntxdave
                      last edited by

                      @hvanessen said:

                      and the one on a wooden floor

                      I tried a of floor too but did not get it to work right either. Would you mind sharing you background info and the various settings?

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                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                        ntxdave
                        last edited by

                        Well - I finally made some progress.

                        Here is latest effort:
                        Silly Glass Sample

                        Now off to go back to the original challenge and draw the glass (and maybe a bottle) with liquid content.

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          at bigmanwashes they certainly have some big ass glasses!

                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                            ntxdave
                            last edited by

                            @rich o brien said:

                            at bigmanwashes they certainly have some big ass glasses!

                            Not big glasses, just small blowers ❗

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                            • J Offline
                              JGA
                              last edited by

                              Is your background just an HDR image, rather than a physical plane?

                              Regards,
                              JGA

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                              • ntxdaveN Offline
                                ntxdave
                                last edited by

                                @jga said:

                                Is your background just an HDR image, rather than a physical plane?

                                In this particular case, yes.

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                                • ntxdaveN Offline
                                  ntxdave
                                  last edited by

                                  My latest endeavor.......
                                  WineGlass.jpg
                                  Still not exactly what I want but getting closer.

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    It's a funny result! β˜€

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • ntxdaveN Offline
                                      ntxdave
                                      last edited by

                                      @pilou said:

                                      It's a funny result! β˜€

                                      Yep, it sure is. 😲

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                                      • tuna1957T Offline
                                        tuna1957
                                        last edited by

                                        Dave C. , Stumbled across your post today. Twilight user also and you peaked my curiosity. Never have done the
                                        glass of wine business so figured why not. Built and textured my glass like Massimo shows ( thanks
                                        for posting that Pilou ! ) .Below I've listed how I set things up.

                                        Materials , Wine Glass - Snow , TW - glass / common
                                        Top of wine - Indian Red 12% opacity , TW - glass / water
                                        Side of wine - Fire Brick 12% opacity , TW - glass / water
                                        Backdrop - Cool Grey #4 , TW - paint / eggshell

                                        TW render preset - 08 Exterior Daytime Progressive

                                        TW Sun Settings - Physical Sky , Brightness - .800 , Haze - 20% , Sun Strength - 3.0
                                        Gave the sun a very light yellow color. all other settings left at default levels.

                                        Let the render run for 100 passes. It took about 19 minutes. Probably as good as it will get with this setup. Need to
                                        try some shots in an interior studio setup. Better chance of playing with lighting and use some other objects for
                                        reflections and such. Good luck and just keep working with TW you'll get better with practice. Thanks for the kick to
                                        do something a little different with SU & TW than I usually do. It was a nice change of pace.


                                        wineglass render.jpg

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                                        • H Offline
                                          hvanessen
                                          last edited by

                                          Very good, andere cheers πŸ’š

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                                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                                            ntxdave
                                            last edited by

                                            Well, here is my latest try............
                                            WineGlass-2.jpg
                                            The wine does not really show up in the render but otherwise, it is acceptable.

                                            I have done a bunch of tries and just do not seem to get it right. I have also attached the SU file if anyone wants to take a look at tell me how to adjust it more properly.


                                            WineGlass-2.skp

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