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    • JQLJ Offline
      JQL
      last edited by

      @pherim said:

      Anyone else noticed that when using a tool from any toolbar other than those native to SU, it is no longer highlighted in the toolbar?

      Had never noticed it... It's true! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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      • Clayton49C Offline
        Clayton49
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        To all,

        SketchUP/Layout improvements for the recent 2016 release as listed below may not please everyone Iโ€™m sure. However any improvement to software we use has to be welcomed, especially when it seems SU HQ release updates each year.

        SKETCHUP
        Trimble Connect
        Reload Components with 3D Warehouse models
        Generate Report 2.0
        Enhanced inferencing and tool improvements
        Customizable Utility Trays on Windows
        Refreshed Textures
        Support for High DPI Graphics
        Extensions Loading Policy
        Welcome Dialog Refresh
        Knowledge Center Update
        Support for El Capitan and Windows 10

        LAYTOUT
        LayOut cloud references
        Small dimensions
        LayOut layers
        Optimized PDF Export from LayOut
        Documentation Improvements

        For me, the main ones are: Enhanced inferencing, Small dimensions, LayOut layers & Optimized PDF Export from LayOut.

        One item I thought was way overdue for improvement is the SU layer dialogue. So Iโ€™ll just have to WHISH-LIST this one for SU 2017. In the meantime Iโ€™ll keep on using the superior layers dialogue EXTENSION called Layers Panel by Jiminy-Billy-Bob. It does some of the stuff I note below a good Layers dialogue should do in my opinion.

        Layer Folders for specific layer names.
        Move to layer by selection.
        Layer on/off by selection.
        Layer as active by selection.
        Layer active only by selection.
        Layers all on.
        User to dictate layers order, not alphabetically, i.e. an move up/down arrow button with lock order.

        I also wondered what direction SU HQ were taking in terms of future development, I even muted it may even start looking at some form of basic parametric building elements for certain disciplines in the construction industry. Obviously I was getting way ahead of myself as I see their website now firmly stamps third party developers for this with add-on EXTENSIONS. Being an Architectural Consultant in the UK, any parametric software tools for Designing Buildings for Planning & Building Regulation Approvals for Construction would be key for me. EXTENSIONS may provide this, but I would favour these to be in-house as EXTENSIONS sometimes arenโ€™t initially compatible with new SU releases or may even fall by the wayside.

        From what I understand, FORM-Z & RHINO+VISUALARQ have taken this โ€œin-houseโ€ direction & thus may be a consideration for people in the construction industry looking for a similar product as SU.

        Over & out,
        Clayton.


        %(#BF0000)[I posted the above on the SU-FORUM, it might be an idea for all expecting more.. ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก from SU-2016 to cut+paste their comments to this forum as well, just a thought...... ๐Ÿ˜’]

        Over & out,
        Clayton.

        %(#008000)[Trotman & Taylor
        Architectural Consultants]

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        • P Offline
          Philw
          last edited by

          "- You can still revive the old way if you make a tray per inspector and use a short cut to call it as you probably did before. You can also use that shortcut to toggle it on and off wich is great!"
          Not sure what you mean,

          What I don't like with the new tray is the space it takes up on my screen, even when its rolled up I need to adjust the tray to take up less screen space. in SKU2015 and prior I didn't have to do this.


          My 2015 Setup


          2016 setup so far

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          • Clayton49C Offline
            Clayton49
            last edited by

            @philw said:

            "- You can still revive the old way if you make a tray per inspector and use a short cut to call it as you probably did before. You can also use that shortcut to toggle it on and off wich is great!"
            Not sure what you mean,

            What I don't like with the new tray is the space it takes up on my screen, even when its rolled up I need to adjust the tray to take up less screen space. in SKU2015 and prior I didn't have to do this.

            For more screen "yardage" double click the trays to fix to right hand side of screen, then you can pin-it or un-pin-it, the latter it slides back to right hand side of screen & pops out when you ghost the mouse pointer over the tab.... ๐Ÿ˜Ž

            Over & out,
            Clayton.

            %(#008000)[Trotman & Taylor
            Architectural Consultants]

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            • TommyKT Offline
              TommyK
              last edited by

              I've noticed how inferencing has got better. Not just the new parallel/perpendicular feature. Especially noticeable when using the rotate tool - it snaps to edges now - before it only snapped to points in most situations. Inferencing in general feels much more successful. It's a big productivity plus for me, more valuable than any new feature.

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              • K Offline
                KrisM
                last edited by

                The perpendicular inference is great but you still can't inference to the world axes from within a component (which has a different axes orientation). ๐Ÿ˜’

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                • david_hD Offline
                  david_h
                  last edited by

                  well .. .Im a tad underwhelmed. I think I will hold out for 2017 where I am sure ALL the major wish items will be finally included.

                  Frankly. . I have been wishing for one feature since version 5 and it doesn't seem to get any traction at all. I don't know if I know how to describe it very well or what. . but the one thing I would love sketch up to is to Hide visibility of nested components when you ware working on them. If I have window C and I have multiple C's in that component to able to hide all but the next C up in the tree for clarity sake would be awesome. right now with "hide rest of Model" it's an all or nothing thing.

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  • K Offline
                    KrisM
                    last edited by

                    If you're holding out for 'All the major wish items" to be included, you might change the timeline to 2027. ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                    • P Offline
                      Philw
                      last edited by

                      Clayton49

                      Still like the old way better as it did not take up screen space and it just worked.
                      its not just SKU, it other programs as well. They keep fixing whats not broken and not fixing what needs to be fixed.

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                        kaas
                        last edited by

                        @philw said:

                        Clayton49

                        Still like the old way better as it did not take up screen space and it just worked.
                        its not just SKU, it other programs as well. They keep fixing whats not broken and not fixing what needs to be fixed.

                        +1

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                        • R Offline
                          rv1974
                          last edited by

                          @david_h said:

                          well .. .Im a tad underwhelmed. I think I will hold out for 2017 where I am sure ALL the major wish items will be finally included.

                          Frankly. . I have been wishing for one feature since version 5 and it doesn't seem to get any traction at all. I don't know if I know how to describe it very well or what. . but the one thing I would love sketch up to is to Hide visibility of nested components when you ware working on them. If I have window C and I have multiple C's in that component to able to hide all but the next C up in the tree for clarity sake would be awesome. right now with "hide rest of Model" it's an all or nothing thing.

                          Odd wishes. Why only 3, not 4?
                          If it so crucial you could copy 3 instances of the component you are tweaking to the empty file on the next display and tweak there more discreetly. And paste it back when its OK.

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                          • dereiD Offline
                            derei
                            last edited by

                            @rv1974 said:

                            @david_h said:

                            well .. .Im a tad underwhelmed. I think I will hold out for 2017 where I am sure ALL the major wish items will be finally included.

                            Frankly. . I have been wishing for one feature since version 5 and it doesn't seem to get any traction at all. I don't know if I know how to describe it very well or what. . but the one thing I would love sketch up to is to Hide visibility of nested components when you ware working on them. If I have window C and I have multiple C's in that component to able to hide all but the next C up in the tree for clarity sake would be awesome. right now with "hide rest of Model" it's an all or nothing thing.

                            Odd wishes. Why only 3, not 4?
                            If it so crucial you could copy 3 instances of the component you are tweaking to the empty file on the next display and tweak there more discreetly. And paste it back when its OK.

                            Is TREE (like branched hierarchy), not 3 !! ๐Ÿ˜„)) ๐Ÿ’š

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                            • david_hD Offline
                              david_h
                              last edited by

                              Odd wishes. Why only 3, not 4?
                              If it so crucial you could copy 3 instances of the component you are tweaking to the empty file on the next display and tweak there more discreetly. And paste it back when its OK.

                              well . .. of course I have been doing that as a workaround,but it seems to me to be a thing that would be a nice feature. but since I seem to be the only one clamoring for this. .

                              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
                                last edited by

                                Just wonder what that means, david.

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                                • david_hD Offline
                                  david_h
                                  last edited by

                                  i dunno...i'll just shuddup and wait in my corner for 2017 or 18. . .19. .

                                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                  • pbacotP Offline
                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by

                                    I mean, I don't follow the wish item.

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                                    • S Offline
                                      slbaumgartner
                                      last edited by

                                      I think what is confusing in david_h's request is the meaning of "next C up in the tree". I suppose "tree" means a structure with components nested inside components that are nested inside other components? Then the phrase might mean the instance of C nested in the component that contains the one currently open for edit? Alternatively it could mean sibling C's nested in the same component or all except those nested in the same component. So, the issue isn't with whether it is a good request but with understanding what it means!

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                                      • david_hD Offline
                                        david_h
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah! what he said! ๐Ÿ’š

                                        So.. .I didn't explain it well . .as I figured I wouldn't. All I meant was that if you have a structure of nested components--a nice feature for me would be to have a control on the visibility of said components when editing so that when instead of "hide rest of Model" you get can see all or some of the other components in the tree but not the rest of the model. For example . . if I have a component B in Model A I can work on Nested F component but maybe only see E or D not everything else?

                                        A>B>C>D>E>F

                                        There. That should make it much more clear right? ๐Ÿ˜’

                                        Now I feel bad cuz I hi=jacked this thread. I'll shuddup now.

                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • pmolsonP Offline
                                          pmolson
                                          last edited by

                                          I have been using 2016 for a few days now, and I have no complaints.
                                          I do have a question though.

                                          Is there a way to dislodge the layers dialog box from the default Tray. I like the tray, especially with autohide enabled, but I would like to get the layers dialog out of there and float it wherever I want.

                                          I tend to have a lot of layers and the tray forces me to awkwardly scroll up and down to access.

                                          Thanks

                                          Paul

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                                          • K Offline
                                            kaas
                                            last edited by

                                            @pmolson said:

                                            ..
                                            Is there a way to dislodge the layers dialog box from the default Tray. I like the tray, especially with autohide enabled, but I would like to get the layers dialog out of there and float it wherever I want...

                                            Create a new tray just for the layers and drag it off the docked position (double click).
                                            Window-manage trays-new etc

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