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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Only wish I could spend more time at it. I did manage to squeeze in about 3 hours of good coding yesterday and that is why I was able to knock the rest of it out.

      This morning as I was thinking about what else needs to be done I realized that it wouldn't be too hard to add in the gable wall framing, especially for the gambrel attic since it is always regular rectangular shape.

      To add in windows or doors one would simply right click on the wall group and an HTML menu will pop up that will allow for the creation of multiple windows and doors with an interactive SVG/JavaScript interface.

      This menu will also allow for editing and deleting previously added windows or doors.

      Once I have this module coded it will drop right into the wall plugin, no point in creating the wheel twice.

      A option within this menu will allow for inserting actual doors or windows into the openings, this is going to get complicated but its going to be fun.

      My only uncertainty at the moment is how to establish and store the information which tells me which side of the wall is facing the exterior. I will need to know this in order to repeatedly cut and redraw studs and also for proper window and door placement and location.

      MEDEEK_OFFICE_12b_a.jpg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • D Offline
        dpaul
        last edited by

        How you are thinking through the options and our potential usage of the upcoming wall tool seems really thorough to me. No surprise, of course, in relation to the comprehensive depth of your present plugins.
        Every possible success, then. Can't wait.
        David

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          MEDEEK_OFFICE_12b_b.jpg

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            Version 2.1.5 - 02.16.2018

            • Added floor sheathing and attic gypsum for gambrel attic trusses.
            • Added roof cladding, sheathing and ridge cap for gambrel attic trusses.
            • Created a separate HTML menu for advanced options of gambrel attic trusses.
            • Enabled gable end trusses for gambrel attic trusses.
            • Enabled hurricane ties for gambrel attic trusses.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su338_800.jpg

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su337_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • facerF Offline
              facer
              last edited by

              Medeek,
              An impressive output of truss plugin.

              3d renderings with Raylectron give good views of final output.

              It will be interesting to get some feedback from users.
              At present, you are way ahead of the users and time is need for them to
              download and test the plugins new features.

              You appear to be enjoying yourself and that is a reward in itself 😄

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Please report any issues with the gambrel attic truss type (windows or mac). When I make major changes to a module it is quite easy to break something and not even realize it.

                I do my best to test the plugin in all possible states and permutations but I can never get all of them.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • facerF Offline
                  facer
                  last edited by

                  Medeek plugin for SketchUp - view 3d model on any web device, VR cardboard or headset

                  Have a real "fun" look around and see the results possible now with current web browsers!

                  Attached Kubity link of 3d model that can be viewed by any web device.

                  Note also VR cardboard or headset viewing available.

                  LINK to 3d Model for viewing:
                  https://www.kubity.com/p/kOfmnT

                  Model by Medeek
                  http://design.medeek.com
                  1802_17feb 008_1600 pics.jpg

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    The crow's beak for the gambrel attic roof has been on my todo list for about a year and a half now. Grateful that I was able to somehow find the time to put this one together tonight.

                    The projection of the crows beak and the length along the rake can both be set by the user.

                    I will roll this out tomorrow as 2.1.5b once I've finished testing it.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su339_800.jpg

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su340_800.jpg

                    View model here:

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                    3D Warehouse

                    3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                    (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      I've added in thumbnails to the sheathing tab of the global settings so the user can preview the wall and roof cladding materials:

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su341_800.jpg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Version 2.1.5b - 02/18/2018

                        • Added a crow's beak option for gambrel attic trusses.
                        • Added thumbnails for wall and roof materials in the sheathing tab of the global settings.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          This barn is very similar to the one we had at our first farm in Terrace B.C. Canada:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su342_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su343_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su344_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su345_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su346_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su347_800.jpg

                          Foundation was created with the foundation plugin.

                          View model here:

                          Link Preview Image
                          3D Warehouse

                          3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                          (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            The thing I find very interesting with the gambrel roof is the two pitches, whereas with your typical gable roof you only have one pitch and each side of the roof is simply the hypotenuse of half the span and the height of the peak.

                            With a gambrel roof you have the two legs of the roof and the two pitches and an infinite number of possible combinations and hence a large variety in the shape of the gambrel roof.

                            Ultimately this led me to create the HTML/SVG preview panel so that the user can play with the various parameters until the desired gambrel shape is achieved. I believe this is where the real power in this plugin in manifest, in situations where an architectural element can be realized by incrementally adjusting parameters within the user interface.

                            A common truss is much more simpler than the gambrel but a similar preview screen would be helpful in my opinion.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              As I was creating the various test models for the gambrel attic truss yesterday I realized that the color I had initially set for the gypsum material was slightly off white, which for my particular case was just fine. However, after giving it second thought I realized that the gypsum color (material) should also be configurable so I added in one additional setting into the sheathing tab.

                              Then my 13 year old son (Jared) suggested that I implement some sort of color picker since most people don't equate a hexadecimal RGB value with any particular color (ie. #FF2C9F). I found a simple javascript based color picker and modified it to fit my needs, hopefully this is somewhat helpful.

                              Under the materials tab I will probably implement similar options where one can modify the color of the lumber and the pressure treated lumber. For now I will probably keep the plywood and the OSB material/texture as default. If someone really wants to modify those it is simply a matter of replacing the .jpg image with their own custom image within the plugin folder.

                              colorpicker.jpg

                              Since javascript tends to be a bit browser dependent I am curious how well this works on MacOS with the background browser running as Safari, please let me know if there are any issues.

                              The color boxes at the bottom of the color picker provide some shades of grey as well as the default Medeek colors for: lumber, pressure treated lumber, gypsum.

                              This minor update is rolled into 2.1.5c in the PluginStore.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                I took a step back today and pulled my head out of the sand, so to speak.

                                The truss plugin does some pretty cool stuff and its fairly detailed where I've fleshed out certain truss and roof types. However, it is missing one major feature or has a major flaw depending on how you want to word it.

                                Currently the plugin is "fire and forget", with no ability to edit an existing roof or floor assembly. This needs to change.

                                I have a mental picture of how I want to handle this but there may be some flaws with my thinking.

                                I briefly discussed this with a few others at this thread:

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                                Right Click Menu Items

                                I’ve noticed with some plugins that when you create something within them you can then right click on the object and plugin specific items are shown in that menu. I would like to do something like that for the truss and…

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                                SketchUp Community (forums.sketchup.com)

                                My idea is to right click on a roof or floor assembly, then click "Edit Assembly" at which point the plugin will bring up a very concise list of parameters for the assembly. Changing any one of the various parameters or settings will essentially redraw the entire (roof, truss, floor, dormer) assembly. The list will remain open after each edit and only be closed if the user decides to close it.

                                Any manual edits made to the assembly will of course be lost but this is the price of having a fully editable assembly.

                                I think I can implement this fairly easily, the various modules are all utilized the same as when I originally created the assembly, the only difference being the user interface.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • D Offline
                                  dpaul
                                  last edited by

                                  Excellent. Been waiting for this......... 👍

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                                  • facerF Offline
                                    facer
                                    last edited by

                                    Save parameters of truss type for later use (modification)

                                    Ideally one could save the parameters for a truss type and then
                                    install in future for another project with similar or slight variations.

                                    Hence a library of truss types and associated detailscould be
                                    created by the user for repeative projects.

                                    This would be ideal for builders constructing repeative building types
                                    with sight variations.

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      I like the idea of saved config files or templates, I will give this some more thought.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Making some good progress on the "edit" function. I will initially start with the common trusses and then once I am satisfied that those trusses are running stable I will begin to make this feature available for all other truss, rafter and floor assemblies.

                                        I'm a little bogged down with the advanced options (there are too many) but it is just a matter of putting in the time and slogging through all of the data entry and HTML and javascript. Probably by the end of the week I should have something ready to go and I will roll a release so everyone can begin testing it.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          Has anyone had much experience with SIP walls? I've been looking at the product offering of Eco Panel:

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                                          Eco-Panels - Strong and Efficient Building Panels | Homepage

                                          Building a new home? Eco-Panels offers modular building panels that are stronger & safer than stud frame construction for about the same price.

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                                          Eco-Panels (www.eco-panels.com)

                                          and I am fairly curious about this product.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • K Offline
                                            KrisM
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm quite familiar with SIPs. They definitely have their pluses and minuses. They certainly aren't cheap but can be quite effective if installed properly. The key here is that contrary to the suggestion from Eco Panels that low priced labour can erect their product, there better be someone on site who really knows what they are doing. I have seen some bad installs (not Eco Panel's products) and the long term implications are quite serious. While I have been a promoter of SIPs in the past, I think there are easier and cheaper ways to get good R values.

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