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    medeek
    last edited by 22 Apr 2020, 06:19

    @juju said:

    Different manufacturers have different sizes. A single well constructed DC, where you can enter the overall sizing on a dialogue, would probably be more useful and cause less bloating of the extension?

    I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      juju
      last edited by 22 Apr 2020, 19:23

      @medeek said:

      I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

      Maybe touch base with Yoni at FlexTools, they seem to have that process licked!

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        pbacot
        last edited by 22 Apr 2020, 19:31

        Surface mount and curb mounted (typically on 2x6 framing over roof deck) are common. Velux is probably the standard though there are other types out there. In our area it's mostly Velux or something like that due to stringent energy requirements. You could have some of these, especially the ones meant to go into 24" o.c. framing. Then if you want branch out to some pyramidal or gable style skylights.

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          medeek
          last edited by 24 Apr 2020, 07:41

          Version 2.7.2 - 04.24.2020

          • Added wall sheathing thickness and wall cladding thickness parameters to the advanced options for trusses.
          • Enabled advanced options for tail bearing trusses.

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su683_800.jpg

          I still need to enable editing and labels for tail bearing trusses.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 24 Apr 2020, 23:45

            Version 2.7.2b - 04.24.2020

            • Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all tail bearing trusses (imperial and metric units).
            • Labels and callouts added to tail bearing trusses.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su685_800.jpg

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su684_800.jpg

            This update also resolves a potential bug that could cause the plugin to go into a infinite loop if the birdsmouth cut exceeds the depth of the top chord of the truss. If you are using tail bearing trusses I highly recommend upgrading to this latest release.

            The updated module is now properly creating the gypsum on the underside of the truss (three pieces).

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              db11
              last edited by 26 Apr 2020, 00:06

              Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

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                medeek
                last edited by 26 Apr 2020, 00:10

                @db11 said:

                Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

                Yes, for some truss types it is enabled.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  db11
                  last edited by 26 Apr 2020, 00:24

                  OK, thanks.

                  One other quick question: when do you expect to have your gable wall module completed?

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 26 Apr 2020, 00:29

                    Maybe I'll wrap that up next. I really want to get this skylight module up and running though in the next couple of days.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 27 Apr 2020, 01:50

                      Version 2.7.3 - 04.26.2020

                      • Added a Global Reset button in the General tab of the Global Settings.

                      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/c/4cd164f87f2a986d3ef495bb9a5cfa6335fd24e5.jpeg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 3 May 2020, 19:38

                        Version 2.7.4 - 05.02.2020

                        • Fixed a bug with the soffit and fascia module for all truss types.

                        This bug fix is specifically for the boxed soffit for truss roofs. Previously if one did not enable the fascia but enabled the soffit then it would throw an error. There may be other similar bugs in this module or others so I am constantly testing combinations of various parameters to make sure no interdependencies have been overlooked.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 6 May 2020, 05:37

                          Version 2.7.5 - 05.05.2020

                          • Enabled a toggle feature (Ctrl key) for the Trim tool so that the selection can be retained or removed.

                          This small adjustment of the Trim tool is to bring it inline with the Trim 2 tool. This feature is per customer request.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 10 May 2020, 08:00

                            First look at the skylight tool in action:

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/4/e492b52c1392aaf9038a71a8d1042273df9e1549.jpeg

                            Note, that this image shows the skylights added to a generic roof. For the cutouts to work the roof geometry must be a valid solid group or component within an overall assembly group for the roof or building.

                            Initially there are three skylights (sizes) to choose from however it is possible to add your own skylights into the library.

                            The cut function can be toggled on/off in order to cut through the sheathing and cladding or in this case just a generic roof solid.

                            At some point I would also like to add in a few VELUX Sun Tunnels.

                            Now I just need to figure out how to heal the roof when a skylight is deleted or edited. For a Medeek roof that is fairly straight forward, just regen the roof, however for a generic solid things get a little more tricky.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 11 May 2020, 08:14

                              Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

                              • Added the Skylights toolbar.
                              • Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.
                              • Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/skylight_su_menu_active.jpg

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su696_800.jpg

                              I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

                              There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 11 May 2020, 08:25

                                View model here:

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                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  juju
                                  last edited by 11 May 2020, 17:28

                                  @medeek said:

                                  Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

                                  • Added the Skylights toolbar.
                                  • Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.
                                  • Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/skylight_su_menu_active.jpg

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su696_800.jpg

                                  I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

                                  There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

                                  thanks

                                  since we're expanding with more buttons, how's the work on reducing the amount of buttons on the taskbar coming along?

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 22 May 2020, 08:44

                                    Tutorial 18: Skylights (14.22 min.)

                                    I often get a lot of questions that are answered in the tutorial videos. Just a reminder, all of the tutorial videos can be found here:

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                                    Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss

                                    Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Truss

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                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 1 Aug 2020, 02:14

                                      Version 2.7.7 - 07.31.2020

                                      • Fixed a bug with all assemblies when auto-assignment of materials is turned off in the global settings.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 17 Aug 2020, 05:22

                                        I've been giving some serious thought to the estimating module the last couple of days as I regroup and review my various todo lists.

                                        I would like to spend a few days and update the estimating module to include rafter roofs. However, as I think about rafters and their lengths I am wondering what length exactly are we talking about? Do we want the actual (longest length of the member) or do we want a horizontal projection of the length? Typically both the top and bottom of a rafter has a bevel cut or even a compound bevel cut.

                                        The ridge board on the other hand is very simple (generally). There are no beveled end cuts so things are straight forward.

                                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/7/27cc852c1a571a27fe926f23e0b8591f310daf2f.gif

                                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/0/c/0c89f620606e1359664b082cc526b96792472d7d.gif

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by 17 Aug 2020, 19:59

                                          I would think that for estimating you need the longest dimension of the rafter, then extrapolate to the nexthigher board length.

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