3D Truss Models

medeek · 21 Apr 2020, 00:11

Skylights have not been on my official todo list but now they are.

I've actually been tossing the Skylight idea around for a while now, how best to implement it within the various roof modules. I've got some ideas already but I haven't finalized it yet.

Does anyone have any specifics or suggestions on the actual skylight models/components that I should use. Specific brands, reference drawings, that sort of thing.

My thinking is to have some fairly generic skylight models that the user could chose from. The skylight module would then bring these components into the model and also cut the corresponding holes in the roof cladding and sheathing. I would also have a tool for editing and deleting a skylight. As far as moving the skylight on the roof plane, I would allow the user to simply click into the roof assembly and moving the skylight with the native tools as they see fit, this would be the simplest way of handling re-positioning.

Again, I'm still tossing this idea around, trying to shake out the best system for implementing it, any feedback is appreciated.

medeek · 21 Apr 2020, 05:52

Velux has their official models in the warehouse but as usual there are too many details in these models, so I had to create my own low poly versions that are dimensionally accurate:

3D Warehouse

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juju · 21 Apr 2020, 12:55

@medeek said:

Velux has their official models in the warehouse but as usual there are too many details in these models, so I had to create my own low poly versions that are dimensionally accurate:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

Different manufacturers have different sizes. A single well constructed DC, where you can enter the overall sizing on a dialogue, would probably be more useful and cause less bloating of the extension?

medeek · 22 Apr 2020, 06:16

First look at the Skylights Toolbar:

medeek · 22 Apr 2020, 06:19

@juju said:

Different manufacturers have different sizes. A single well constructed DC, where you can enter the overall sizing on a dialogue, would probably be more useful and cause less bloating of the extension?

I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

juju · 22 Apr 2020, 19:23

@medeek said:

I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

Maybe touch base with Yoni at FlexTools, they seem to have that process licked!

pbacot · 22 Apr 2020, 19:31

Surface mount and curb mounted (typically on 2x6 framing over roof deck) are common. Velux is probably the standard though there are other types out there. In our area it's mostly Velux or something like that due to stringent energy requirements. You could have some of these, especially the ones meant to go into 24" o.c. framing. Then if you want branch out to some pyramidal or gable style skylights.

medeek · 24 Apr 2020, 07:41

Version 2.7.2 - 04.24.2020

Added wall sheathing thickness and wall cladding thickness parameters to the advanced options for trusses.
Enabled advanced options for tail bearing trusses.

I still need to enable editing and labels for tail bearing trusses.

medeek · 24 Apr 2020, 23:45

Version 2.7.2b - 04.24.2020

Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all tail bearing trusses (imperial and metric units).
Labels and callouts added to tail bearing trusses.

This update also resolves a potential bug that could cause the plugin to go into a infinite loop if the birdsmouth cut exceeds the depth of the top chord of the truss. If you are using tail bearing trusses I highly recommend upgrading to this latest release.

The updated module is now properly creating the gypsum on the underside of the truss (three pieces).

db11 · 26 Apr 2020, 00:06

Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

medeek · 26 Apr 2020, 00:10

@db11 said:

Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

Yes, for some truss types it is enabled.

db11 · 26 Apr 2020, 00:24

OK, thanks.

One other quick question: when do you expect to have your gable wall module completed?

medeek · 26 Apr 2020, 00:29

Maybe I'll wrap that up next. I really want to get this skylight module up and running though in the next couple of days.

medeek · 27 Apr 2020, 01:50

Version 2.7.3 - 04.26.2020

Added a Global Reset button in the General tab of the Global Settings.

medeek · 3 May 2020, 19:38

Version 2.7.4 - 05.02.2020

Fixed a bug with the soffit and fascia module for all truss types.

This bug fix is specifically for the boxed soffit for truss roofs. Previously if one did not enable the fascia but enabled the soffit then it would throw an error. There may be other similar bugs in this module or others so I am constantly testing combinations of various parameters to make sure no interdependencies have been overlooked.

medeek · 6 May 2020, 05:37

Version 2.7.5 - 05.05.2020

Enabled a toggle feature (Ctrl key) for the Trim tool so that the selection can be retained or removed.

This small adjustment of the Trim tool is to bring it inline with the Trim 2 tool. This feature is per customer request.

medeek · 10 May 2020, 08:00

First look at the skylight tool in action:

Note, that this image shows the skylights added to a generic roof. For the cutouts to work the roof geometry must be a valid solid group or component within an overall assembly group for the roof or building.

Initially there are three skylights (sizes) to choose from however it is possible to add your own skylights into the library.

The cut function can be toggled on/off in order to cut through the sheathing and cladding or in this case just a generic roof solid.

At some point I would also like to add in a few VELUX Sun Tunnels.

Now I just need to figure out how to heal the roof when a skylight is deleted or edited. For a Medeek roof that is fairly straight forward, just regen the roof, however for a generic solid things get a little more tricky.

medeek · 11 May 2020, 08:14

Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

Added the Skylights toolbar.
Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.
Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

medeek · 11 May 2020, 08:25

View model here:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

juju · 11 May 2020, 17:28

@medeek said:

Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

Added the Skylights toolbar.

Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.

Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

thanks

since we're expanding with more buttons, how's the work on reducing the amount of buttons on the taskbar coming along?