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    • AureusA Offline
      Aureus
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      @rich o brien said:

      Same here on Win 8.1

      Oh, it seems you also need another cup of coffee. ๐Ÿ˜„

      Looks like a bug...or some serious interference of some third-party plugin (if that is possible).

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
        last edited by

        Does that too on win7 SU15, looks like a bug to me.


        Lock.gif

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        • AureusA Offline
          Aureus
          last edited by

          Now I have no more doubts - it's not the lack of coffee. It's SketchUp behaving that way.

          And it shouldn't. Locked things should be staying in place and not moving about.

          Box, can you teach me to make those gif animations from SketchUp?
          They are really good when you want to show people how something functions. โ˜€
          Or you can point me to some video tutorial?
          What program do I need for that?

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          • S Offline
            slbaumgartner
            last edited by

            One of the simplest GIF capture apps is LiceCap.

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            • BoxB Offline
              Box
              last edited by

              Personally I use gifcam
              http://blog.bahraniapps.com/gifcam/

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              • AureusA Offline
                Aureus
                last edited by

                Thank you slbaumgartner, thank you Box.

                I like what it's written about GifCam: "While recording whenever GifCam finds the previous frame is same as the new recorded one it automatically adds delays (milliseconds the frame stays on screen) instead of adding a new frame and increasing gif size."

                Slbaumgartner, SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  One thing to make note of with gifs, it's not the file size that's most important, it's the frame size that really counts.
                  Keep the camera window under 500 by 500 pix and it will play continuously, but one pixel over and you'll have to click it to animate.

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                    driven
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                    @aureus said:

                    ...SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

                    SketchUp moves all 'selected' items 'locked and unlocked' when you use the the 'Measurements' input box...

                    same as box's gif shows...

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    • AureusA Offline
                      Aureus
                      last edited by

                      Good to know that, Box.
                      Still it is a great thing: 491x459px, 51 frames and only 101KB!

                      To stay on the topic. So far it appears that only the MOVE tool is affected with this flaw.
                      The ROTATE tool functions as it should. You can't cheat ROTATE here.

                      Just pay attention that Fredo Scale tools don't care much about your locked objects. You can edit them in so many ways: rotate them, scale them, twist them...They remain 'locked' for SketchUp tools after you finish with them with Fredo but nothing will stop Fredo to ignore their 'lock'.

                      So, if you have a locked object and you are lazy to unlock it before rotating, rotate it with the Fredo Scale plugin.

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                      • AureusA Offline
                        Aureus
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                        @driven said:

                        @aureus said:

                        ...SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

                        SketchUp moves all 'selected' items 'locked and unlocked' when you use the the 'Measurements' input box...

                        same as box's gif shows...

                        john

                        Well, since it doesn't move them when you make your first input - I think it wasn't meant to be this way.
                        And also you cannot rotate an unlocked object with the SU ROTATE tool no matter how much you try. Or you can?

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                        • panixiaP Offline
                          panixia
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                          here is the same.
                          nice bug!

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            it's a fine line....

                            bug.jpg

                            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                            • AureusA Offline
                              Aureus
                              last edited by

                              Before we proclaim it a bug it would be nice to hear someone who has a freshly installed plugin-free SketchUp.
                              If SketchUp behaves like that even without third-party plugin interfering than I assume it's really some minor mistake in SketchUp itself.

                              Nice, bugs, Rich.
                              Which one do you prefer? ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                driven
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                                @aureus said:

                                Before we proclaim it a bug it would be nice to hear someone who has a freshly installed plugin-free SketchUp.,,

                                it's easy enough to rename the 'Plugins' folder to test...
                                the issue persist on mac btw...
                                john

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                • AureusA Offline
                                  Aureus
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                                  Oh, since I had TIG suggesting me not to meddle with the Tools folder - I stopped going to the SketchUp folder almost entirely. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                  By the way, I can't get in SketchUp 2014 Plugins folder anymore in a normal way used in previous versions - I don't see it being present in the SU folder (even with 'Show hidden files and folders' checked). When I need something (to add a lang file for example or to delete a plugin) I use 'reload' leaf component from 3D Tree Maker as a passage into Plugins. But that's a roundabout. And I have to turn off and restart SketchUp many times if I have to make many corrections.
                                  (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

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                                    driven
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                                    @aureus said:

                                    ...
                                    (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

                                    the Sketchucation Plugin has a plugin that adds 'Open Plugins' to its list...

                                    that should get you plugged...

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                    • AureusA Offline
                                      Aureus
                                      last edited by

                                      @driven said:

                                      @aureus said:

                                      ...
                                      (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

                                      the Sketchucation Plugin has a plugin that adds 'Open Plugins' to its list...

                                      that should get you plugged...

                                      I may give it a try.

                                      Still that means - opening 'Plugins' from inside the SketchUp while you work on some file?

                                      No way through Windows Explorer like in old good times? ๐Ÿ˜„

                                      Security measures, I guess...

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                                      • Wo3DanW Offline
                                        Wo3Dan
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                                        @aureus said:

                                        .... No way through Windows Explorer like in old good times? ๐Ÿ˜„

                                        Security measures, I guess...

                                        This may help you finding plugins in newer (SU-2014 and 2015) versions:
                                        http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38583

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                                        • AureusA Offline
                                          Aureus
                                          last edited by

                                          @wo3dan said:

                                          @aureus said:

                                          .... No way through Windows Explorer like in old good times? ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          Security measures, I guess...

                                          This may help you finding plugins in newer (SU-2014 and 2015) versions:
                                          http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38583

                                          Thank you, Gerrit!

                                          This is what I've been searching for.

                                          There it is:

                                          SketchUp 2014:
                                          C:\Users\YOUR USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2014\SketchUp\Plugins

                                          I don't know why it's there but at least I don't have to start the program in order to meddle with the Plugins folder. Now I can finally make a mess again with no much effort. โ˜€

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