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    • AureusA Offline
      Aureus
      last edited by

      Hi guys.

      I select some groups and one of them is locked.
      I move them by typing some value.
      Of course, the unlocked one stays in the place.
      Then I change my mind and before the completion of action I type some other value.
      All groups move including the locked one.
      Locked groups shouldn't move.

      Anyone else has experienced this with SU2014?

      P.S. Now I checked this with SU8. The same thing. Is this a punishment cos I still use Windows XP? πŸ˜•
      Or I just need another cup of coffee and the things will settle down? 😲

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        Same here on Win 8.1

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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        • AureusA Offline
          Aureus
          last edited by

          @rich o brien said:

          Same here on Win 8.1

          Oh, it seems you also need another cup of coffee. πŸ˜„

          Looks like a bug...or some serious interference of some third-party plugin (if that is possible).

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          • BoxB Online
            Box
            last edited by

            Does that too on win7 SU15, looks like a bug to me.


            Lock.gif

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            • AureusA Offline
              Aureus
              last edited by

              Now I have no more doubts - it's not the lack of coffee. It's SketchUp behaving that way.

              And it shouldn't. Locked things should be staying in place and not moving about.

              Box, can you teach me to make those gif animations from SketchUp?
              They are really good when you want to show people how something functions. β˜€
              Or you can point me to some video tutorial?
              What program do I need for that?

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              • S Offline
                slbaumgartner
                last edited by

                One of the simplest GIF capture apps is LiceCap.

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                • BoxB Online
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  Personally I use gifcam
                  http://blog.bahraniapps.com/gifcam/

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                  • AureusA Offline
                    Aureus
                    last edited by

                    Thank you slbaumgartner, thank you Box.

                    I like what it's written about GifCam: "While recording whenever GifCam finds the previous frame is same as the new recorded one it automatically adds delays (milliseconds the frame stays on screen) instead of adding a new frame and increasing gif size."

                    Slbaumgartner, SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

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                    • BoxB Online
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      One thing to make note of with gifs, it's not the file size that's most important, it's the frame size that really counts.
                      Keep the camera window under 500 by 500 pix and it will play continuously, but one pixel over and you'll have to click it to animate.

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                      • D Offline
                        driven
                        last edited by

                        @aureus said:

                        ...SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

                        SketchUp moves all 'selected' items 'locked and unlocked' when you use the the 'Measurements' input box...

                        same as box's gif shows...

                        john

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        • AureusA Offline
                          Aureus
                          last edited by

                          Good to know that, Box.
                          Still it is a great thing: 491x459px, 51 frames and only 101KB!

                          To stay on the topic. So far it appears that only the MOVE tool is affected with this flaw.
                          The ROTATE tool functions as it should. You can't cheat ROTATE here.

                          Just pay attention that Fredo Scale tools don't care much about your locked objects. You can edit them in so many ways: rotate them, scale them, twist them...They remain 'locked' for SketchUp tools after you finish with them with Fredo but nothing will stop Fredo to ignore their 'lock'.

                          So, if you have a locked object and you are lazy to unlock it before rotating, rotate it with the Fredo Scale plugin.

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                          • AureusA Offline
                            Aureus
                            last edited by

                            @driven said:

                            @aureus said:

                            ...SketchUp moves unlocked objects on Mac as well?

                            SketchUp moves all 'selected' items 'locked and unlocked' when you use the the 'Measurements' input box...

                            same as box's gif shows...

                            john

                            Well, since it doesn't move them when you make your first input - I think it wasn't meant to be this way.
                            And also you cannot rotate an unlocked object with the SU ROTATE tool no matter how much you try. Or you can?

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                            • panixiaP Offline
                              panixia
                              last edited by

                              here is the same.
                              nice bug!

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by

                                it's a fine line....

                                bug.jpg

                                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                • AureusA Offline
                                  Aureus
                                  last edited by

                                  Before we proclaim it a bug it would be nice to hear someone who has a freshly installed plugin-free SketchUp.
                                  If SketchUp behaves like that even without third-party plugin interfering than I assume it's really some minor mistake in SketchUp itself.

                                  Nice, bugs, Rich.
                                  Which one do you prefer? πŸ˜†

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                                  • D Offline
                                    driven
                                    last edited by

                                    @aureus said:

                                    Before we proclaim it a bug it would be nice to hear someone who has a freshly installed plugin-free SketchUp.,,

                                    it's easy enough to rename the 'Plugins' folder to test...
                                    the issue persist on mac btw...
                                    john

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                    • AureusA Offline
                                      Aureus
                                      last edited by

                                      Oh, since I had TIG suggesting me not to meddle with the Tools folder - I stopped going to the SketchUp folder almost entirely. πŸ˜’

                                      By the way, I can't get in SketchUp 2014 Plugins folder anymore in a normal way used in previous versions - I don't see it being present in the SU folder (even with 'Show hidden files and folders' checked). When I need something (to add a lang file for example or to delete a plugin) I use 'reload' leaf component from 3D Tree Maker as a passage into Plugins. But that's a roundabout. And I have to turn off and restart SketchUp many times if I have to make many corrections.
                                      (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

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                                        driven
                                        last edited by

                                        @aureus said:

                                        ...
                                        (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

                                        the Sketchucation Plugin has a plugin that adds 'Open Plugins' to its list...

                                        that should get you plugged...

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        • AureusA Offline
                                          Aureus
                                          last edited by

                                          @driven said:

                                          @aureus said:

                                          ...
                                          (Question for Windows users):Is there any easier way?

                                          the Sketchucation Plugin has a plugin that adds 'Open Plugins' to its list...

                                          that should get you plugged...

                                          I may give it a try.

                                          Still that means - opening 'Plugins' from inside the SketchUp while you work on some file?

                                          No way through Windows Explorer like in old good times? πŸ˜„

                                          Security measures, I guess...

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                                          • Wo3DanW Offline
                                            Wo3Dan
                                            last edited by

                                            @aureus said:

                                            .... No way through Windows Explorer like in old good times? πŸ˜„

                                            Security measures, I guess...

                                            This may help you finding plugins in newer (SU-2014 and 2015) versions:
                                            http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38583

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