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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      strange... I guess I didn't try vertical. gimmie a minute.

      confirmed... doesn't work when second point is clicked in a Z axis... second point must be X or Y. third point can then be Z axis.

      something's wrong.

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Personally I don't think it functions correctly in 14 or 15. It's erratic and needs to be updated.

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          I don't know how active Rick is anymore...

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            The GoldenGauge.rb file requires select.rb
            That is the file with an issue if the old 'examples' has not been set up and which would have made $exStrings - but this is not likely in the newer SketchUp versions !
            To fix it - edit select.rb using Notepad/Notepad++ - near the start add the two green lines shown, below the first ' require':


            require 'sketchup.rb' **%(#008000)[require 'langhandler.rb' $exStrings = LanguageHandler.new('examples.strings') unless $exStrings]**


            It'll now work in all versions of SketchUp...

            TIG

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            • BoxB Offline
              Box
              last edited by

              Yep that works.
              Am I right in thinking it isn't designed to work on the Z Plane, ie: you can't draw one flat on the floor.

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @box said:

                Yep that works.
                Am I right in thinking it isn't designed to work on the Z Plane, ie: you can't draw one flat on the floor.
                I see what you mean !
                I only ever used it on vertical wall-faces !

                I'll look at it...

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The code transforms in the Z, so if all Z's are the same it won't work [i.e. it's a flat horizontal face].
                  Is suppose the clue is in the prompts: 'select width' p2 and 'select width' p3 - suggesting walls - after all such proportions are usually in elevations, fenestration etc...

                  It'd be quite possible to make non-plane specific version - but it's more work than a minor 'tweak'...
                  😞

                  TIG

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
                    last edited by

                    Doesn't matter to me, just wanted to clarify.
                    It's simple to flip on its side if you want it on the floor.

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                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                      Krisidious
                      last edited by

                      @tig said:

                      The GoldenGauge.rb file requires select.rb
                      That is the file with an issue if the old 'examples' has not been set up and which would have made $exStrings - but this is not likely in the newer SketchUp versions !
                      To fix it - edit select.rb using Notepad/Notepad++ - near the start add the two green lines shown, below the first ' require':


                      require 'sketchup.rb' **%(#008000)[require 'langhandler.rb' $exStrings = LanguageHandler.new('examples.strings') unless $exStrings]**


                      It'll now work in all versions of SketchUp...

                      πŸ‘

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                      • john2J Offline
                        john2
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                        Thanks TIG sir! Well, is it ethical that the moderator or the admin modifies the plugin uploaded on Smustard website for the betterment of its use by the common people who don't know coding? And posts it here? πŸ’­

                        It is available free of cost anyway. So, there is no legal issues.

                        It doesn't matter. A better stuff is available on SCF rather than the outdated thing. Don't you think sir? πŸ’­

                        Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                        • K Offline
                          kaas
                          last edited by

                          you could also make a group / component with 3 lines spaced at the golden gauge intervals. If you need to divide any other/new surface just move the group/component and scale it to the desired endpoints. The 'middle' line (golden gauge) will be at the correct scaled position.

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                          • D Offline
                            driven
                            last edited by

                            @john2 said:

                            Well, is it ethical that the moderator or the admin modifies the plugin uploaded on Smustard website
                            tig hasn't 'redistributed' a modified version of the ruby, he has shared how he fixed his version to make it fit for purpose...
                            If you chose to modify your version, then any ethical dilemma is yours...
                            I might add that in the UK [at least] modifying your own copies of software for your own use, is considered a consumer right, and overrides any 'license' or 'copy-write' conditions forbidding the activity...

                            john

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              I think he was asking Tig to do so permanently, not questioning whether he had broken any ethic.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Yes, I have done nothing wrong in suggesting a fix which YOU might apply to a freely download-able file - the infringement of copyright is entirely yours... The select.rb file does state it is copyright.
                                Do not copy it, but if you modify it for your own use, then no one will ever know. This fix is one which the author might have done, had he been arsed to do it. He is probably still around... but he does not seem to support/fix his older toolsets...

                                The reason I did not suggest a similar fix for his GoldenGauge.rb, was because it needed such a change in thew way it works that it was difficult to fix with a single 'tweak'. It could be recoded... but that is a very different issue...
                                πŸ˜’

                                TIG

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                                • john2J Offline
                                  john2
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                                  @tig said:

                                  Yes, I have done nothing wrong in suggesting a fix which YOU might apply to a freely download-able file - the infringement of copyright is entirely yours... The select.rb file does state it is copyright.
                                  Do not copy it, but if you modify it for your own use, then no one will ever know. This fix is one which the author might have done, had he been arsed to do it. He is probably still around... but he does not seem to support/fix his older toolsets...

                                  The reason I did not suggest a similar fix for his GoldenGauge.rb, was because it needed such a change in thew way it works that it was difficult to fix with a single 'tweak'. It could be recoded... but that is a very different issue...
                                  πŸ˜’

                                  Pardon my lack of techie knowledge about tweak, recoded. I'm not understanding the different issue thing.

                                  Kindly bear with me.

                                  All I am saying is this. You add the suggested lines in the original golden gauge rb file and upload it here on SCF forums as "Tweaked Golden gauge plugin" . That would completely okay and legal right? Rick won't get annoyed if this happens. πŸ’­

                                  Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    The Rick I know would not mind one bit...

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      No.
                                      You misunderstand the concept of copyright.
                                      If a script is published in a way that disclaims copyright [typically in the wording in its header, which puts it freely into the public domain] then you are free to do what you will with it, edit it and even republish it with changes - although doing so without making it clear it is now 'your' version could confuse others, and at least annoy the original author.
                                      A script might be published explicitly claiming copyright [or if there is nothing said to the contrary the copyright is deemed to remain with the original publisher or author - the 'owner'].
                                      In that case you may not change its contents and republish it, without the express consent of the 'owner'.
                                      However, if you make some changes and use that changed file for your own private purposes then who is to know...
                                      I suggested a simple 'tweak' to the copyrighted 'select.rb' to make it compatible with newer versions of SketchUp - it was adding a couple of lines at the start to fix an oversight by the original author, and which I an sure he would have agreed with.
                                      If any of you then decide to try that 'tweak', it's up to you, I did NOT republish the file.
                                      I trust you will not do so either.
                                      I declined to make significant changes to his copyrighted GoldenGauge.rb, this is would have meant a major rewrite and posting large blocks of code - tantamount to republishing a then much edited version of the script.
                                      I could do that for my own personal use but not post it for the rest of you, as I then consider that infringing copyright rules...
                                      However, I did make significant changes to' LiveIvy', because the original author invited users to make changes and improve the code, effectively disclaiming any copyright he might have had.

                                      TIG

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