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    Fredo6 crashing SU Pro 2014

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    • fredo6F 離線
      fredo6
      最後由 編輯

      You must have a complication in the model, maybe due to the import of DXF.
      Then acting on the geometry, scripts may end up crashing when trying to update it.

      The best is to post the model so that we can have a look.

      Fredo

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      • Dave RD 離線
        Dave R
        最後由 編輯

        It sounds like your model has issues that are causing SketchUp to crash when you run the fix routine in Edge Inspector. You could confirm this by running Fix on a simple model. If the problem is due to Edge Inspector, you should still see the crash. Otherwise I would be looking at the model.

        Perhaps you can simplify the model to identify what geometry is causing the problem. Or maybe if you scale the model up by perhaps a factor 100, the tiny gaps you've created can be filled during the fix. Maybe you could share the model so we can see what you've got to start with.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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        • B 離線
          Blippy
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          Thanks for the help guys. I've spent the morning removing all the other plugins to see if there was a clash - but to no avail, so it is helpful for you to have zoomed in so quickly on the model as the problem. I scaled it up by 100 and ran the tool - at first it didn't detect any gaps, but then I bumped the threshold up to it's max and it only picked up 3 or 4, which seemed good enough to test. But just as the fix was nearly finished and my hopes were soaring - Bug Splat!!

          Here's the model, which is still just a 2D jobby at this stage - one I'm slowly (?) growing to hate 😉

          Thanks again for such quick, pertinent, friendly suggestions.


          The horror... the horror...

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          • B 離線
            Blippy
            最後由 編輯

            Test... my reply and upload don't seem to have materialised.

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            • massimoM 離線
              massimo Moderator
              最後由 編輯

              @blippy said:

              Test... my reply and upload don't seem to have materialised.

              A couple of first posts by new members have to be approved by a moderator.

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              • B 離線
                Blippy
                最後由 編輯

                Ah! That explains it. Thanks.

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                • fredo6F 離線
                  fredo6
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                  @blippy,

                  I tried the model but got no bugsplat.

                  The model is clearly full of defects, in particular very small edges (some below 0.01 mm). So it is quite interesting because it pushed EdgeInspector to the limits.

                  This helped me to find a few problems in EdgeInspector which I have fixed and will publish in a new release.

                  In the meantime, here is a cleaner version of the file. I scaled it up by x10 before using EdgeInspector.

                  Blippy - acb take 12 x10.skp

                  By the way, have you tried thomthom's CleanUp plugin on your model, with the "repair Edges" feature?

                  Fredo

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                  • tt_suT 離線
                    tt_su
                    最後由 編輯

                    Do you get the BugSplat dialog or the Apple crash dialog?

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                    • B 離線
                      Blippy
                      最後由 編輯

                      Wow - thanks Fredo!! That all seems to be behaving itself now. Yes, I've tried Thomthom's CleanUp - but I couldn't detect any improvements with it - although that may have more to do with me having little idea of what to expect/look for. I've been trawling the plugin world fairly intensively trying to find something that would work and your magical Edge Inspector was the closest I got to a solution. So, many thanks for your plugin(s), and many thanks for being generous enough to also help me individually with my problem. I'm sort of a little bit glad I managed to inadvertently given you a challenge that made it all a little more worth while (hopefully) 😉

                      Thanks again!

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                      • B 離線
                        Blippy
                        最後由 編輯

                        @tt_su said:

                        Do you get the BugSplat dialog or the Apple crash dialog?

                        Oh, Hi - I was getting both.

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                        • tt_suT 離線
                          tt_su
                          最後由 編輯

                          Did you submit the BugSplat? If you did - and provided some description, name or email, then I can use that to look it up and perhaps get any idea of where it crashed.

                          (In general, please submit any BugSplats - even the ones you have sent before. For first time crashes, please include some info about what happened prior to the crash.)

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                          • B 離線
                            Blippy
                            最後由 編輯

                            @tt_su said:

                            Did you submit the BugSplat? If you did - and provided some description, name or email, then I can use that to look it up and perhaps get any idea of where it crashed.

                            (In general, please submit any BugSplats - even the ones you have sent before. For first time crashes, please include some info about what happened prior to the crash.)

                            Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

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                            • BoxB 離線
                              Box
                              最後由 編輯

                              You have raw geometry on the wrong layer.
                              Move it to layer0 and your model will work.

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                              • B 離線
                                Blippy
                                最後由 編輯

                                @box said:

                                You have raw geometry on the wrong layer.
                                Move it to layer0 and your model will work.

                                Ooooh... and there was I wondering just last night what all this layer business is about in sketchup! Obviously I can have a dig to find out more, but if you are able to point me to a nice SU Layers 101 I'd appreciate it. And hopefully it will tell me how to move raw (as opposed to cooked?) geometry!!

                                This process is proving far more educational than I imagined 😉

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                                • Dave RD 離線
                                  Dave R
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Here's most of what you need to know about using layers in SketchUp.
                                  http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38572

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                  • B 離線
                                    Blippy
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    @dave r said:

                                    Here's most of what you need to know about using layers in SketchUp.
                                    http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38572

                                    Ah, very nifty. Thanks again!!

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                                    • tt_suT 離線
                                      tt_su
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      @blippy said:

                                      Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

                                      The BugSplat dialog has a button to Send. And a textarea to enter description.

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                                      • B 離線
                                        Blippy
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @tt_su said:

                                        @blippy said:

                                        Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

                                        The BugSplat dialog has a button to Send. And a textarea to enter description.

                                        That hasn't been my experience of BugSplat. Whenever SU has crashed I've only been aware of BugSplat when I cycle through my open apps (squiggle-tab) and the BugSplat icon (very cute btw) is in the list. When I select it there is no dialog or text box, just the generic OSX menu with zero functionality - certainly nothing like what you describe.

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                                        • Dave RD 離線
                                          Dave R
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                                          That's what I get on my Mac when SketchUp crashes, too. Thankfully it is extremely rare but I am never able to send in those splat reports. Some folks do get the Splat window on Mac, though. No idea what's different about ours though.

                                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                          • tt_suT 離線
                                            tt_su
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                                            Ah, there are some issue with the BugSplat dialog under OSX. We're investigating that.

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