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    • Rich O BrienR Online
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      Exiting editing mode from nested groups

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      • gillesG Offline
        gilles
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        @jeff hammond said:

        @gilles said:

        AZERTY, do you think this could make a difference?

        not sure.. i guess a few more mac users would have to try it to see..
        also, i wonder if everyone in the thread is talking about the same thing and i might of replied too quickly prior to fully understanding the question.

        are we talking about exiting groups or un-selecting selected items? πŸ˜• i'll read back through the thread a little later.

        Both.

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
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          I just use the key command for exit group... But you mean altogether out of all nested groups?

          I would also like a command to be able to click on an object and have it open that objects group immediately, no mater how nested.

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          • D Offline
            driven
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            @jeff,
            esc works on my iMac. but I have never used it...
            I don't think it did on my mac book, so haven't tried it since...
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            • D Offline
              DOD3R
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              Hi all,
              I use ESC to exit components/groups i have no problem with that. I dont even need a function exit all, because its not that difficult to hit esc four times to exit from the nested group. And even i thing it helps me to be aware on witch layer in the nest am I.
              But still sometimes I loose track of things and i would like some visual clue. I know there is outliner and it serves this purpose well. But it gets messy sometimes and for good orientation takes a lot of my screen space. I would like something illustrator has. see attachment.
              what do you think?

              T.


              outliner-vs-illustrator.jpg


              best-of-both.jpg

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                But it gets messy sometimes

                Sure if all components are named "Component"! πŸ’š

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                • KrisidiousK Offline
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  But it gets messy sometimes

                  Sure if all components are named "Component"! πŸ’š

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
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                    Funny how people can be talking about the same thing and not notice.

                    @bob james said:

                    @jim said:

                    Paste this into a file with the .rb extension in your plugins folder.

                    
                    > > UI.add_context_menu_handler {|menu|
                    > >   menu.add_item("Close All Contexts") {
                    > >     Sketchup.active_model.selection.clear
                    > >     while (Sketchup.active_model.close_active); end
                    > >   }
                    > > }
                    > > 
                    

                    Called it BackOut.rb, assigned a shortcut to it, added it to a key on my P.I. Engineering x-keys keyboard and now I can back out from within any group/component with one key. Sure beats pecking at the Escape key πŸ˜„
                    Thank you very much πŸ‘

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      @jeff hammond said:

                      @gilles said:

                      It does for me or maybe I've a fake Mac πŸ’š

                      really? that's strange.
                      do you use an english keyboard? or- i wonder what else may be the reason why ESC deselects for you and not me?

                      It works for me on my Mac, too, Jeff.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        @box said:

                        Funny how people can be talking about the same thing and not notice.

                        Too true. πŸ˜‰

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                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                          Bob James
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                          @unknownuser said:

                          Funny how people can be talking about the same thing and not notice.

                          massimo did notice.

                          @massimo said:

                          @krisidious said:

                          Esc does work and I use it often... But something to exit out of all groups and unselect everything back to the top of the model hierarchy would be nice.

                          This works like a charm.

                          That's what led me to turn Jim's code into backout.rb


                          BackOut.rb

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
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                            @bob james said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Funny how people can be talking about the same thing and not notice.

                            massimo did notice.

                            @massimo said:

                            @krisidious said:

                            Esc does work and I use it often... But something to exit out of all groups and unselect everything back to the top of the model hierarchy would be nice.

                            This works like a charm.

                            That's what led me to turn Jim's code into backout.rb

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                            • bazB Offline
                              baz
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                              Perhaps I am misunderstanding the issue but in the shortcuts menu there is an option for 'deselect all' This doesn't 'back out' like the escape key but does exactly what it says.
                              I have it set as 'shift D'

                              Baz

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                              • Bob JamesB Offline
                                Bob James
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                                @baz said:

                                This doesn't 'back out' like the escape key

                                That's the whole point of this discussion. Deselecting something buried within a component/group still leaves you inside the group/component. Backout deselects and brings the cursor all the way out of the group/component leaving you free to select something else in your model.

                                By the way:,I can't find this:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                but in the shortcuts menu there is an option for 'deselect all'

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                                • bazB Offline
                                  baz
                                  last edited by

                                  @bob james said:

                                  Backout deselects and brings the cursor all the way out of the group/component leaving you free to select something else in your model.

                                  I get you, 'Select None' only deselects within the group or component.

                                  @bob james said:

                                  By the way:,I can't find this:

                                  Here Tis...

                                  Capture-su preferences.JPG

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                                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                                    Bob James
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks:I was looking for 'deselect all'

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    but in the shortcuts menu there is an option for 'deselect all'

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                                    • bazB Offline
                                      baz
                                      last edited by

                                      @bob james said:

                                      Thanks:I was looking for 'deselect all'

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      but in the shortcuts menu there is an option for 'deselect all'

                                      my bad 😳

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        @gilles said:

                                        @jeff hammond said:

                                        are we talking about exiting groups or un-selecting selected items? πŸ˜• i'll read back through the thread a little later.

                                        Both.

                                        what if you aren't editing inside a group (raw geometry) and you have some items selected? will ESC deselect those items? i've tried it on a macpro and a mbp now and it works on neither. for that, i have to use the 'select none' shortcut.
                                        (though the way i usually do this when there is no blank space to click in is to select a new item which i can see then shift-select it in order to clear all selections.. just i bad habit i've developed over the years where i should probably be using the shift-cmmd-A shortcut)

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
                                          last edited by

                                          @jeff hammond said:

                                          @gilles said:

                                          @jeff hammond said:

                                          are we talking about exiting groups or un-selecting selected items? πŸ˜• i'll read back through the thread a little later.

                                          Both.

                                          what if you aren't editing inside a group (raw geometry) and you have some items selected? will ESC deselect those items? i've tried it on a macpro and a mbp now and it works on neither. for that, i have to use the 'select none' shortcut.
                                          (though the way i usually do this when there is no blank space to click in is to select a new item which i can see then shift-select it in order to clear all selections.. just i bad habit i've developed over the years where i should probably be using the shift-cmmd-A shortcut)

                                          Yes this works, I' running Mountain lion Mac book pro SU V8.

                                          As I said before ESC does not deselect with some tools when they are active.

                                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @gilles said:

                                            Yes this works, I' running Mountain lion Mac book pro SU V8.

                                            As I said before ESC does not deselect with some tools when they are active.

                                            well.. that's just strange (tried it in su8 too on lion and mavericks-- with various active tools).. i'm sure there's a reason behind the differing behaviors on our computers but i guess it's not important enough to figure out.

                                            fwiw, i do use the ESC key often in sketchup but i use it as a cancel button while drawing (for instance, i use the line tool if i need to measure something but i ESC once i see the dimension in the measurement box.. or if i misplace the beginning click of a tool etc..)

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