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    • R Offline
      Rudbeckia
      last edited by

      The "shells" need walls though correct? Meaning they cant just be faces?

      Im wondering if there is a quick way to make walls from a bunch of buildings that are just faces.

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        pbacot
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        [quote="Rudbeckia"]Shellify seems like it might do the opposite of what I want. The problem is a 3d printer wont print just a "shell" or just faces with no thickness

        What I describe would be making inside faces spaced in from the outside. You reverse the faces on this inside group so that the space "inside the walls" is then all back faces.

        I'll attach the model. The wall thickness in this scale method are not exact. You have to adjust to your liking after.

        I don't know of a fast way myself.


        bldg 2.skp

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          Rudbeckia
          last edited by

          I see now what you are saying, so the bldg you attached would print on a 3d printer? Even though it is still faces not walls? Bc what you have done would be a lot faster than redrawing all the sides of the bldgs as walls

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by

            OK. As I understand, it will. I don't do 3d printing myself, but I have helped others with models to print, and it came out fine. SketchUp only has faces. However a properly made model will print when translated.

            The point about the roof span should be considered you might end up adding some columns or other mass in the center to keep it from sinking in. Probably you should pushpull it thicker than I show too (roof and floor). A prototype model would help your printer tell you what is needed.

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              Rudbeckia
              last edited by

              thanks for the help!

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              • K Offline
                kaas
                last edited by

                A quick addition to my earlier comment:

                1. you could also just offset the floorplane and pushpull it up just below the rooflevel.
                2. if you make a group of a closed object it will automatically turn into a solid. You can only 3d print solid objects
                3. check the specs and material of your 3d printer. it will depend the minimall thickness of the walls and roof and if you need supporting structures for the roof.
                4. check your units. If you want to 3d print the model at some scale, the model should be scaled accordingly.
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                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  @kaas said:

                  A quick addition to my earlier comment:

                  1. you could also just offset the floorplane and pushpull it up just below the rooflevel.
                  2. if you make a group of a closed object it will automatically turn into a solid. You can only 3d print solid objects
                  3. check the specs and material of your 3d printer. it will depend the minimall thickness of the walls and roof and if you need supporting structures for the roof.
                  4. check your units. If you want to 3d print the model at some scale, the model should be scaled accordingly.

                  No 1 is a good idea. Faster.

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                  • cottyC Offline
                    cotty
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                    @pbacot said:

                    OK. As I understand, it will.

                    It's depending on the printing technology. If it's powder based for example, you need escape holes for the powder inside... for some ideas of rules see here.

                    You need to follow the design rules for the specific printer that will be used! (wall thickness, holes, ...)

                    A quick way to add thickness to the walls in this case could be the JPP plugin from Fredo, and to make it into a solid component use Solidsolver from TIG...

                    [screenr:3mtb2nbb]YSUN[/screenr:3mtb2nbb]

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      @Cotty
                      How select the faces on this video ?
                      Does the background external faces of the 2 "little boxes" are selected?
                      Have you a screenshot of the JPP toolbar regulates?

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                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                      • cottyC Offline
                        cotty
                        last edited by

                        Does this screenshot help?


                        jpp_thicken.png

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          No ๐Ÿ˜„
                          Some explosion! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                          no.jpg


                          no.skp

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • cottyC Offline
                            cotty
                            last edited by

                            I've got the same problem with your geomtry...

                            my SketchUp gallery

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              I believe that your geometry works because your 2 little boxes are "penetrating" by the top inside the big one!
                              Mine is just "pasted" without soaking even inside is effectively dug!
                              So maybe Fred must improuve his JPP! ๐Ÿ˜„

                              no 1.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
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                              My Little site :)

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                                tt_su
                                last edited by

                                @rudbeckia said:

                                A 3d printer will not read just a face in SU even in the faces are closed, like a cube. It does not read the cube as a solid......at least thats what i have been told.

                                I've not had that problem. When you have a closed volume, in SketchUp it will say "Solid" in Entity Into then it's good to go for 3d print.

                                This was printed from a SketchUp model:

                                https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8uzkqpEAPfA/T9sv_fQ9W1I/AAAAAAAABWs/p5dSGHFq2wQ/w716-h985-no/Peon.jpg

                                https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103450081381233788032/albums/5754245713469640065

                                I used iMaterialize's services.

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Poor pawn ! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  Frenchy Pilou
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                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    The simple definition of a manifold solid - one that will successfully 3d-print when exported to a compatible file format - is a collection of 'geometry', consisting of just faces and the edges bounding those faces [within a group or a component 'container'].
                                    Every edge must bound exactly two faces - no fewer and no more.
                                    So that precludes faceless edges, or edges around holes, forming flaps/shelves etc with therefore one face only, or edges bounding internal partition faces where they would have three or more faces, or edges shared by two otherwise seemingly solid objects - like cubes meeting along one edge - where that edge is shared by four faces.
                                    It also precludes nested groups/components and any other entities like text and dims.
                                    Although construction-lines and points [aka guides] within a collection do not compromise its solidity, these are best avoided when sending on for 3d-printing etc...

                                    TIG

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                                      arail1
                                      last edited by

                                      You should consider downloading a demo version of Rhino and running the Shell command. I'm assuming you're just printing the outside volume of these buildings, therefore you don't need floors. Shell will do what I think you're looking for.

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