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    • dereiD Offline
      derei
      last edited by

      I have this:
      need2extrude.jpg
      I need to extrude the lines from Start to Mid to End, but also to keep the rail's shape.
      What plugin would help me for this and how?
      I can't make half and mirror, because the rail is catenary (maybe in this example is hard to see, but I have several similar shapes to make).
      SU file attached.


      need2extrude.skp

      DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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      • Rich O BrienR Online
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        TIG EEbyR would do it.....after some 'thinking' time as it's quite heavy at 300 segments per curve.

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        • dereiD Offline
          derei
          last edited by

          @rich o brien said:

          TIG EEbyR would do it.....after some 'thinking' time as it's quite heavy at 300 segments per curve.

          And how to select them? Should I make a group with the 3 profiles and another group with the rail?
          I have TIG's extruding plugin, but I'm pretty confused about how to use it, especially the more complex extruding tools.

          DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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          • Rich O BrienR Online
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Start Shape

            Rail x 2

            Mid Shape

            to generate one side. Repeat for other side

            Rich_001_03-10-2014.png

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            • N Offline
              numerobis
              last edited by

              curviloft works too with two separated sides. But the problem with both solutions is the transition between the two sides... it is not possible to get a smooth transition. I had this problem several times. It would be great if curviloft would work with multiple shapes and could generate a smooth transition.

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                Curviloft "Loft along Path" ca n handle all contours in one shape.

                Select first the 2 parts of the Rail contour.
                Then select the 3 contours "Start", "Mid" and "End" in order.

                Fredo

                Need2 extrude.png

                need2extrude _ Curviloft - v8.skp

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
                  last edited by

                  Lol, even Toposhaper does the trick.

                  even toposhaper.jpg

                  http://www.solos-art.com

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                  • andybotA Offline
                    andybot
                    last edited by

                    @solo said:

                    Lol, even Toposhaper does the trick.

                    lol, except it doesn't... what's that about Pete? πŸ˜•

                    I run into situations too where the extruded shapes are not continuous, so this is helpful to know that curviloft works for this kind of thing. Many thanks to Fredo for his wonderful plugins πŸ‘

                    http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                    • soloS Offline
                      solo
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Lol, even Toposhaper does the trick.

                      lol, except it doesn't... what's that about Pete? πŸ˜•

                      All the logical methods were taken, I thought I'd play with something else. πŸ˜„

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        Oooops!

                        To get continuity along the Rail, you need to select the Offset option
                        Capture3.png

                        Then the two sides are joined in continuity.

                        Fredo

                        Need2 extrude.png

                        need2extrude _ Curviloft - v8.skp

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                          numerobis
                          last edited by

                          @fredo6 said:

                          Curviloft "Loft along Path" ca n handle all contours in one shape.

                          Select first the 2 parts of the Rail contour.
                          Then select the 3 contours "Start", "Mid" and "End" in order.

                          But the result is the same - there is still no smooth transition possible.

                          Btw. i accidently closed the status bar... how can i get it back?!? 😲

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                            numerobis
                            last edited by

                            @fredo6 said:

                            Oooops!

                            To get continuity along the Rail, you need to select the Offset option

                            πŸ‘ great! thanks!!! 😍

                            ...now i only need to get the status/options bar back to be able to change the method πŸ˜†

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              I just realized that the 2 straight line contours were overly divided.

                              This is not necessary. Just make them a single edge each.

                              Then it will be the wavelet contour which will drive the mesh.

                              Fredo

                              need2extrude _ Curviloft - v8.skp

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @numerobis said:

                                ...now i only need to get the status/options bar back to be able to change the method πŸ˜†

                                There should be a small red rectangle in the upper left corner. just click on it to expand the button palette.

                                Fredo

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                                • N Offline
                                  numerobis
                                  last edited by

                                  i will look for it next time when it happens... thanks!

                                  After the second or third reopening of sketchup it was there again.

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                                  • dereiD Offline
                                    derei
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks fredo for the input, but as you can see in the image, there are some strange effects. The model seems to "grow" where the wavy line is. Maybe I should add on each side a second wave, smaller? To make the transition more controllable ?


                                    need2extrude _ Curviloft - v8.png

                                    DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      Derei,

                                      By the way, you could remove the up and downs by duplicating the wave profile at 1/4 and 3/4 distance, and then use Curviloft, Loft by Spline, as shown below:

                                      Derei - Wave - Curviloft.png

                                      Derei - need2extrude.skp

                                      Fredo

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