Reversed Faces
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@box said:
One of the first things to fix in the model is the highlighted section in the image, it is all loose geometry and therefore isn't a solid and can't work in 3D printing. There are other sections that are floating in mid air and parts that cut through other parts. And there are still some reversed faces on the mount of the motor.
Thank you for pointing these thins out. This is not one I drew (rather, one that I inherited but is the first one the client wanted to have printed).
I just got a quote from the company that said they could print it. It will be "At an overall size of approx. 8" x 6" x 5.3"".
I used the trick of setting the back face to a bright green and could no longer find any reversed faces. On another component, I have the challenge that part of the component is a "hollow" section that has another piece that fits up in it. Not sure how to handle that one
Maybe for the printing I am going to have to make some 2nd copies that are 100% solid and somewhat simplified for the printing process. I have also gotten feedback from the printer that the brushes need to be thicker because they might break. This is turning into quite a learning experience.
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@dave r said:
.... When you've made the changes you want, type a new name for the style and click on the little plus icon in the upper right part of the Styles window. This will create a new style for you. If you open the secondary pane of the window, the other plus icon not in the circle, you can set the secondary pane to maybe the Default styles library and drag the thumbnail from the top to the bottom. This will make that style available for future use.
I am setting things up in 2014 and I have created a default style that I want to use in my modeling but I am not able to drag the thumbnail from the top to the bottom. What the heck am I doing wrong?
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Just a guess. I'll bet the permissions for the Styles folder aren't sufficient. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2014 and right click on Styles. Choose Properties. Then click on the Security tab. Click on Edit. Select your user account in the top pane and set Full Control to Allow. Hit Apply then OK. Go back to SketchUp and try dragging the thumbnail from the In Model Pane to Defaults in the lower pane.
While you're in there, you might set permissions for Component and Materials, too.
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@dave r said:
Just a guess. I'll bet the permissions for the Styles folder aren't sufficient. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2014 and right click on Styles. Choose Properties. Then click on the Security tab. Click on Edit. Select your user account in the top pane and set Full Control to Allow. Hit Apply then OK. Go back to SketchUp and try dragging the thumbnail from the In Model Pane to Defaults in the lower pane.
While you're in there, you might set permissions for Component and Materials, too.
My user ID is set up as the administrator.
Hope you cannot see the big red glow.........I think I may have been dragging from the wrong place (and I DO know better). I was dragging from the top thumbnail (clear at the top of the Styles pane).
I am glad many of you are patient. It is not like I have never used a computer before. This was just REALLY STUPID on my part.
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Glad you got it figured out. I wouldn't have thought to ask if you were trying to drag [/that[/i] thumbnail.
BTW, it doesn't matter if you are listed as the administrator. Check out the permissions for that folder anyway. And the others I mentioned, too.
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Being an Admin is no guarantee of having FULL permissions to any folder.
By default Windows limits EVERYONES rights to ALL subfolders [and their contents] within the Program Files 'tree'.
You can change that by context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit and giving every entry listed FULL read.write permissions.
Typically you should do this for the Styles, Components and Materials folders... and Plugins [prior to v2014].
The MAC has been sorted for a while, but on PC these folder permission are slowly getting resolved - e.g. recent v2014 Plugins folder improvements - but so far it's not for all such solders... -
@tig said:
Being an Admin is no guarantee of having FULL permissions to any folder.
By default Windows limits EVERYONES rights to ALL subfolders [and their contents] within the Program Files 'tree'.
You can change that by context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit and giving every entry listed FULL read.write permissions.
Typically you should do this for the Styles, Components and Materials folders... and Plugins [prior to v2014].
The MAC has been sorted for a while, but on PC these folder permission are slowly getting resolved - e.g. recent v2014 Plugins folder improvements - but so far it's not for all such solders...I did go back and allow ALL USERS to have full control over those folder so it should not be a problem in the future.
One thing that I noticed with SU 2014 is that it recognized my personal components from the 2013 version. I still and going to copy my library over to 2014 though because I anticipate deleting 2013 at some point in the future (unless you and/or others think that is not wise for some reason).
As in my other posts, thanks for the feedback and advice.
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Look at Window>Preferences>Files and check the paths for Components and the other things there. I expect Components is probably pointing at your 2013 Components folder. You can change that and should if you'll be deleting SU2013.
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@dave r said:
Look at Window>Preferences>Files and check the paths for Components and the other things there. I expect Components is probably pointing at your 2013 Components folder. You can change that and should if you'll be deleting SU2013.
Well, interesting to say the least. I had always thought that it was looking in the folders under the programs folder. I see that it is looking at the Users\Me\Documents for subfolders there for the appropriate topics (i.e. materials, styles, components, and etc.) so it was pulling from my Documents subfolder and that is why it found them. Now I need to go and rethink some things because I had a folder named components where I put thinks while I was still working on them. I just need to readjust my thinking a little and rename some working files. I do like this though.
Given that, I have another silly question (I know, I am full of them). When I created a style and dragged it to the "default styles folder" in the Styles pane, it is stored in that folder under the programs directory. So, if I want to create multiple styles and save them is a folder under Documents, how/where do they show up in the Styles pane (yes, I could go create one and see for myself but I thought I might as well ask)?
I guess, I need to spend a little more time exploring things like this instead of trying to get the work done for my client. JUST KIDDING!!
I used to teach some basic programming classes and all of this type of stuff was built into the courses. Yes, there are tutorials out there but a lot of these kind of things are not very well covered. This is why I keep posting most of my stuff through the Newbie forum. I do not feel that I have learned some basic things like this that will help me do a better job of "managing" the tool in addition to "using" the tool.
Please be patient with me. I have built a bunch of components for my client but when I went to 3D print them, I found out a bunch of very fundamental things that I had messed up (and the "experienced" person who proceeded me with this client had made a bunch of the same fundamental mistakes). Enough of the whining on my part, just keep educating me
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