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    • T 離線
      toddakeson
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      Is there any way to make the texture seamless? I imagine I could work it out in Photoshop?

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      • micioneM 離線
        micione
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        A quick attempt:
        Tools used:
        Tools on surface (trace a path)
        Tape Maker (to create a solid conical)
        Artisan (Sub / sm)


        capture-20131206-193908.png

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        • olisheaO 離線
          olishea
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          You can make a seamless texture in photoshop using the offset technique but it can be hit or miss depending on the size and type of texture. Google photoshop seamless texture offset. Of course it is possible though.

          I tried something similar to this a while back and almost went crazy. It's really quite difficult.

          I would start with a truncated globe and make a rotation array around the volume. Use JPP (joint push pull) to add thickness and then subdivide with Artisan to make everything smooth.

          If you model in segments then make a rotation array you can ensure the geometry is seamless.

          honeycomb lamp thread...which kinda went off topic!
          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=333%26amp;t=50584

          also a working model that may give you some ideas of how to tackle the issue in sketchup:


          honeycomb.png

          oli

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          • T 離線
            toddakeson
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            Thank you Micione and Olishea for the great suggestions!

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            • olisheaO 離線
              olishea
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              I attempted the truncated globe idea but it doesn't work. I tried using a honeycomb to keep things simple. Once subdivided it keeps the edges straight which isn't what I wanted to achieve. It won't subdivide into a globe shape once I had draped the honeycomb over. 😡


              honeycomb2.png

              oli

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              • Rich O BrienR 離線
                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                ralphy-balphy.png

                Getting to this is straight forward. It is the missing elements that require manual rework....lot's of it 😕

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                • olisheaO 離線
                  olishea
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                  How did you do that?! I can think of a few ways but they take a loooong time. Did you twist the globe and multi face offset? Deleting the inner parts etc...

                  [edit] I managed to do it but it's by no means made up of quads. Messy mesh. 😞

                  oli

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                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    Vertex Tools with soft falloff and select the top vert and rotate...

                    Image 12.png

                    Pull a copy off one twister out blah blah blah...

                    Blender takes about 3secs to do the same when using proportional editing for the translations

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                    • cottyC 離線
                      cotty
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                      @toddakeson said:

                      Any tips if I actually want to model the geometry?

                      I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...

                      cotty_RP.jpg


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                      • olisheaO 離線
                        olishea
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                        I made a sphere, offset the faces, deleted inner faces, used FFD to twist the globe and squash it. Then JPP and Artisan. 😳 Not quads though. 😞 And it only took 20 minutes to display the geometry. I can make a pretty photo-realistic looking tree with 5 times less polys!


                        globe1.png

                        oli

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                        • olisheaO 離線
                          olishea
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                          @cotty said:

                          I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...

                          ONLY!! lol Just tried, failed, gave up 😄

                          What's worse is that these elements seem to overlap each other in places. ❓

                          oli

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                          • olisheaO 離線
                            olishea
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                            Got something a little bit closer.

                            Left side I just manually copied Cotty's component around a globe. Right side I used fur plugin. Managed to get some good overlaps but it's still very messy. 😆

                            The fourth image just uses less components. You have to use a sphere with less faces as fur plugin sometimes uses more than one component per face, even though I told it not to. 😆

                            Fifth image I squashed a sphere using FFD and then ran the fur plugin. I can't think of any other way to do it. Once you use the Cotty component it's a 2 minute job with fur plugin.


                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_1.png


                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_2.png


                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_3.png


                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_4.png


                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_5.png

                            oli

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                            • olisheaO 離線
                              olishea
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                              How is the real lamp illuminated? From the bottom dish?

                              I'll stop posting now I don't want to spam the thread lol


                              cotty_ralphpucci_V6_6.jpg

                              oli

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                              • massimoM 離線
                                massimo Moderator
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                                Well done Oli, you're getting close. 👍
                                One observation is that the elements seem to be bent following the curvature however. Now just use Fredo's bending tool on each of those...😛

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                                • olisheaO 離線
                                  olishea
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                                  @massimo said:

                                  Well done Oli, you're getting close. 👍
                                  One observation is that the elements seem to be bent however... 😛

                                  Cheers massimo,

                                  I know...You can see at the equator of my model how it looks faceted. 😞

                                  Problem is, the squashed globe has different curvature at different points. The equator is the most bent, then almost flat as it rises. hmmmmmm. 😆 If it was a sphere then things would be much easier.

                                  I think this is possible in SU but lots of manual work required as Rich said.

                                  Could even use 3 different components for the fur plugin. Slightly bent, bent and majorly bent!

                                  Or how about intersecting the components into the globe? Then JPP the result, that would work. ☀

                                  The mind boggles! 😆

                                  oli

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                                  • BoxB 離線
                                    Box
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                                    Wouldn't the most straight forward way be to, shape the sphere then take one longitudinal segment as a starting point and draw the shapes you want, extrude them and subdivide/smooth. Make that a component and rotate array it.

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