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    • B Offline
      Ben Ritter
      last edited by

      I've installed 2.0 and any edits I do to the list, particularly sets, are not accepted. If I make changes to the loaded/disabled plugins, then close the manager and re-open, the previous settings are re-applied.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @ben ritter said:

        I've installed 2.0 and any edits I do to the list, particularly sets, are not accepted. If I make changes to the loaded/disabled plugins, then close the manager and re-open, the previous settings are re-applied.
        Please read the previous few posts about setting your Plugins folders security permission up properly so that you can manage your Plugins [much of this is PC oriented BUT MAC is similar - just set FULL permissions from from the 'More Info' dialog [ensuring the option is chosen to trickle the changes down to apply to its contents]]. It's easiest to set FULL read/write permission for all users listed... Also if you are on a PC setup SketchUp.exe to always run as admin etc... Without FULL permission you will not be able to make enduring changes to the state of your Plugins...

        You haven't told us your OS or SUp version in your user-profile [it's there for a reason...]
        However, I guess it's MAC with probably v8 ?
        On a MAC you probably need to use the toggle option to see the hidden Library folders like Plugins...
        If you use 'More Info' on the HD Plugins folder icon to give yourself FULL read/write permissions, then you must choose to apply this also to all of the contained folders and subfolders etc... It's an option ?
        I guess it's this... because if you could not add new files to the Plugins folder at all you would be warned ?
        BUT if you have left its original contents as read-only then you can't manage them ! You can probably manage new additions because they'll take the folder's current properties
        So reset the FULL permissions with the option to apply that to its contents as well...
        On v2013 I think the MAC defaults to the user's Plugins folder, which already has FULL permissions, so there shouldn't be an issue with adding new files OR managing any of them - however if you are using the HD Plugins the permission issue applied just like v8.
        On PCs, because of Windows protective nature of anything inside the Program Files tree, the Plugins folder always needs changing to FULL read/write, but by default these new permissions filter down and should automatically apply to the folder's contents too...
        Hence my MAC+v8 guess ??
        Please let us know what the issue is/was, or if you need further help...

        TIG

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        • B Offline
          Ben Ritter
          last edited by

          TIG,

          Thanks. I'll look at my permissions.

          Using Windows 7 Professional, SU 8.

          Ben

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          • Bob JamesB Offline
            Bob James
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            The little check box that appears when you select "My Plugins": Shouldn't it say "Check to show plugins that need updating"?
            If it shows only "updated plugins", of what value is that?

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              It is meant to mean, 'Check [my-plugins] for [available] updates'.
              If you do check it, then it does indeed show any updates that are available for 'my-[your!]-plugins'
              But I know what you mean... Refinements are being looked at anyway... 😒
              The way it displays 'my-plugins' will hopefully get even more helpful soon - perhaps showing every plugin you have ever downloaded [which might include files you have subsequently deleted or perhaps have not yet installed on this current PC], the plugins you currently have 'installed' on this current PC [but enabled and disabled ones, but excluding 'uninstalled' ones] i.e. omitting those you have subsequently deleted etc, and then which of those plugins have updates available for you...

              TIG

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              • G Offline
                Gábor
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                Text changed to "Check for updates". After cache erase you should see the change.

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                • Bob JamesB Offline
                  Bob James
                  last edited by

                  @gábor said:

                  Text changed to "Check for updates". After cache erase you should see the change.

                  😄 👍

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                  • J Offline
                    jasonotero247
                    last edited by

                    After clicking auto install for some plugins, they do not appear under my plugins tab but do appear under my sketchucation store > My plugins. How do I get them to appear/work. Thanks.

                    windows 7, SU2013

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Not all plugins are under the Plugins menu. Some are under Edit, Tools, Draw, File, Window....

                      It really depends on what you installed.
                      Read the 'More Info' page for each tool...

                      Also you need to have permissions to write to Plugins folder which is covered ad nauseam in this thread already.

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                      • J Offline
                        jackrythm123
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                        I cant seem to find the INSTALL EXTENSIONS button on the extensions tab in preferences. it just isn't there. I know I can manually install these but is there a follow guide for this?

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                        • massimoM Offline
                          massimo Moderator
                          last edited by

                          You need to upgrade SU version - at least the latest SU8 version - in order to have that button and the additional features like AutoInstall...

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                          • cottyC Offline
                            cotty
                            last edited by

                            It was introduced in SU 8 M2: http://sketchupdate.blogspot.de/2011/12/another-important-update-for-sketchup-8.html

                            my SketchUp gallery

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                            • U Offline
                              user2
                              last edited by

                              I'm using SU8 pro (8.0.16846) with Win7x64.
                              Now I can't install any plugin by SUPS v2.0.0 with autoinstall.
                              I check that it could't extended the download file in %TMP%\SCF, Actually there's a "t999" file with 0 byte in the extended folder %TMP%\t.
                              At last I tried to use the old version "v1.2.0", that's works fine.
                              I've never install this plugin and any plugin before
                              I can only provide this information and I really love this work.
                              This is a bug or my problem?

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                              • halroachH Offline
                                halroach
                                last edited by

                                Is there a way to logout my account from the plugin store through sketchup? I logged in using my credentials on more than one computer and I'd like to logout and have that user use his own account...

                                FlexTools - Super Quick Windows, Doors, Slats...

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                                  user2
                                  last edited by

                                  @halroach said:

                                  Is there a way to logout my account from the plugin store through sketchup? I logged in using my credentials on more than one computer and I'd like to logout and have that user use his own account...

                                  That's maby clear the cookies of IE under Win.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @user2 said:

                                    I'm using SU8 pro (8.0.16846) with Win7x64.
                                    Now I can't install any plugin by SUPS v2.0.0 with autoinstall.
                                    I check that it couldn't extended the download file in %TMP%\SCF, Actually there's a "t999" file with 0 byte in the extended folder %TMP%\t.
                                    At last I tried to use the old version "v1.2.0", that's works fine.
                                    I've never install this plugin and any plugin before
                                    I can only provide this information and I really love this work.
                                    This is a bug or my problem?
                                    Do you get any error messages or dialogs referring to this ?
                                    If you have the Ruby Console open are there any messages ?

                                    Do you have a non-ASCII character in your user...temp path ?
                                    Like an 'accented' letter.
                                    The folder is:
                                    C:\Users\**USERNAME**\AppData\Local\Temp\SCF
                                    This will break many Ruby based tools on PCs that will use that folder path [at least until SketchUp starts to use a newer version of Ruby... but we must wait for some future update for that to happen!]
                                    To check the 'temp/SCF' folder exists it writes a temp-file (t999) and does a File.exist?(t999) check to see if the folder is writable, but that returns false even if it exists when there's as accent in the folder path!

                                    Also please double check that you have FULL security permissions to the ../Local/Temp/SCF/ AND ../Local/SCF/ folders - it should be set automatically, but you never know...

                                    So if the issue is that there's an accent in the path try a renamed user-account without it [or wait until SketchUp gets updated...] !?

                                    TIG

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @halroach said:

                                      Is there a way to logout my account from the plugin store through sketchup? I logged in using my credentials on more than one computer and I'd like to logout and have that user use his own account...
                                      Each User on a computer has their own 'Users' account.
                                      Each User logging into the PluginStore through the dialog is asked to login once only [they just have to be a current SCF member and enter a valid password]; subsequent changes to the member's password on the main SCF site will not affect the PluginStore dialog's login, provided they are still an SCF member.
                                      Their acceptable login data is stored in an encrypted cookie file.
                                      On a PC this is is stored separately for each User:
                                      C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\SCF\cookie.dat
                                      Where USERNAME is your PC-user login name...
                                      Note that is AppData folder might be hidden from you - but you can change your 'Folder Options' settings so that then you'll see it...
                                      If that cookie exists and it is found to be valid, then the user is auto-logged-in to the PluginStore dialog every time they open it.

                                      So, if another User has their own Users account they will also be prompted to login once, and your use of the PluginStore dialog will be treated quite separately from theirs - their cookie is stored separately from your cookie.
                                      BUT if you must let someone else use your PC's User account [ 😕 why ?] and you want them to be able to login to the PluginStore dialog in their own right as another SCF-memeber, then you will need to 'disable' your own cookie.dat file... go to the 'SCF' folder given above and rename it YFcookie.dat so the dialog's initial check will no longer see it...
                                      Now anyone [including you!] who opens the PluginStore dialog will be prompted to login [once], and if the data given is acceptable, then a new encrypted cookie.dat file is made.

                                      To revert to your login... just rename the current cookie.dat as XXcookie.dat and rename your old YFcookie.dat as cookie.dat. When you restart the PluginStore dialog you will be logged in again.

                                      TIG

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                                      • halroachH Offline
                                        halroach
                                        last edited by

                                        I'll have to take a vacation to go through that explanation... 😉

                                        The reason I used my login on another computer was so I could check out which plugins and extensions I have installed on my original computer...
                                        Basically I was hoping I'll be able to "sync" all my plugins on all computers I am logged on.

                                        Bottom line:

                                        1. There should be a login/logout feature for the plugins store.
                                        2. Suggest an option to sync plugins in the cloud!? (Apple iCloud style) or at least something similar that will help me install the same plugins on a few computers. (I know of the dropbox option which is not very straightforward for the average user).

                                        FlexTools - Super Quick Windows, Doors, Slats...

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                                        • U Offline
                                          user2
                                          last edited by

                                          @tig said:

                                          @user2 said:

                                          I'm using SU8 pro (8.0.16846) with Win7x64.
                                          Now I can't install any plugin by SUPS v2.0.0 with autoinstall.
                                          I check that it couldn't extended the download file in %TMP%\SCF, Actually there's a "t999" file with 0 byte in the extended folder %TMP%\t.
                                          At last I tried to use the old version "v1.2.0", that's works fine.
                                          I've never install this plugin and any plugin before
                                          I can only provide this information and I really love this work.
                                          This is a bug or my problem?
                                          Do you get any error messages or dialogs referring to this ?
                                          If you have the Ruby Console open are there any messages ?

                                          Do you have a non-ASCII character in your user...temp path ?
                                          Like an 'accented' letter.
                                          The folder is:
                                          C:\Users\**USERNAME**\AppData\Local\Temp\SCF
                                          This will break many Ruby based tools on PCs that will use that folder path [at least until SketchUp starts to use a newer version of Ruby... but we must wait for some future update for that to happen!]
                                          To check the 'temp/SCF' folder exists it writes a temp-file (t999) and does a File.exist?(t999) check to see if the folder is writable, but that returns false even if it exists when there's as accent in the folder path!

                                          Also please double check that you have FULL security permissions to the ../Local/Temp/SCF/ AND ../Local/SCF/ folders - it should be set automatically, but you never know...

                                          So if the issue is that there's an accent in the path try a renamed user-account without it [or wait until SketchUp gets updated...] !?

                                          There's nothing message display in the Ruby console.
                                          My username is CLOUD and there's never a non-ASCII character in my system driver path.
                                          I loggin as the ADMINISTRATOR in my system. And I'm sure the UAC works fine.

                                          NOW I use the old version 1.2.0 instead, It works fine, just without the uninstall option. Did v1.2.0 is the last version before 2.0.0? I will keep it.
                                          I will take some pics and upload them.

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @Hal

                                            We have already been discussing the possibility of a way of users keeping their Plugins Sets synced across their PCs.
                                            At the moment it is a 'Local' setup for each PC...

                                            Why would you ever want to log-out of the PluginStore IF you use separate User accounts properly setup on your networked PCs then each User gets there own login.
                                            BUT if you have been on someone else's PC [during their User-login session] and you have then used your own SCF login details in the PluginStore's dialog, then these details will be reused, until that user's applicable 'cookie.dat' file encrypting your info is deleted from that user's own ../Users/XXX/AppData/SCF/SCF/ folder. So all you have to do is find their 'cookie.dat' file in the ..Users/XXX/AppData/Local/SCF/ folder, as I outlined before, and delete or rename it...
                                            BUT it is best to always login as yourself onto any PC, the other user opens a personal security breach - by letting someone else use their session, anything 'bad' done by the other person appears to done by them, when traced back...
                                            This simple IT protocol ensures that the PluginStore login issue never arises because you always run SketchUp 'as yourself' not as some other user...

                                            However, we will consider a 'logout' option for the dialog, but then we'll have an extra button on the dialog which we are trying to keep simple... Perhaps a "Log-out' of the Plugin Store" menu item in the drop-down menu list ?

                                            PS: This string, copy+pasted+<enter> into the Ruby Console, will rename that user's cookie.dat file with a random-prefix, so the next use of the PluginStore dialog will ask for a login and make a new cookie.dat file. I stopped at deleting it as you can then reuse it by renaming without the random-prefix
                                            File.rename(SCF::SCF_Dialog::SCFDIR+"/cookie.dat", SCF::SCF_Dialog::SCFDIR+"/#{rand}+cookie.dat")
                                            To delete the file use:
                                            File.delete(SCF::SCF_Dialog::SCFDIR+"/cookie.dat")

                                            TIG

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