[Plugin] Layers Panel 1.2.1
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@tt_su said:
SketchUp makes use of the OS render engine - under Windows that means IE and under OSX that is WebKit. Many other applications also uses embedded web controls - which will mostly mean IE. So keeping IE up to date is important - because it affects not only the browser but IE as a development platform. Ensuring you have the latest IE also makes your system more secure as IE is deeply embedded into the OS.
My computer runs Win7 64 and receives updates, from Microsoft and has done so automatically since I installed this OS several years ago. I would have thought it updates I.E. as well, even though I might not use I.E. as a browser.
Is my assumption right?
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After opening a second, third etc. sketchup windows I'm receiving a script error message.
IE 10, Sketchup 2013, Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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@tomot said:
I would have thought it updates I.E. as well, even though I might not use I.E. as a browser.
Is my assumption right?
Probably not.
IE was mandated as a standalone product long ago and receives its own updates somewhat independent from Win OS. Therefore, in theory, you don't need IE on your PC. Yeah, right!
That being said, IE functionality is INTEGRAL with the WIN OS in the way the OS handles IP processes, but not the actual browser application that we commonly refer to as IE.
So if an app, whether it be SU or a Ruby script or even Firefox, needs to get to the web or exploit some IP type functions, it must utilize IE type calls to the OS. And if the developer does not stick to exact protocol, by trying a shortcut or doing something really clever, problems will ensue.
Which is another way of saying what TT said.
Since IE and WIN OS share many DLL's that contain these calls, an update to an IE DLL will update an OS DLL, but not necessarily vice versa. The app developer WILL have the latest IE on his system, and may use an "updated" OS call, but if you have an older IE, that call may fail.
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help!
i formatted my pc.
the next time i installed sketchup and the plugin its not showing the options button again! i cannot hide rendering tools now. T_T
-i am a relatively adept pc user but just lacks the skill for computer scripting and basic programming.
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Is your IE version 9 ? If so, try updating to IE10.
I saw this bug on IE9, but could not find what's the issue... -
@dancho said:
After opening a second, third etc. sketchup windows I'm receiving a script error message.
IE 10, Sketchup 2013, Windows 7 Home Premium x64
You mean when opening multiple instances of Sketchup ?
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Hi, I installed the plugin and it appears this error message when I run SU
I work on Mac OSX 10.9 and SU 2013. -
If you read the download page it does say 'PC only'
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Bad lucky, waiting for mac version
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New version 0.6 beta !
Changelog :
- Fix scene auto-update (This is now an option)
- Adds an options to hide the warning for outdated IE versions (This is intended for people with the warning appearing even though their IE is up to date)
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Hi! I have sketchup running on a MAC! When does this plug in will be ready for OS SISTEM?
[mod=:ik2ekmon]Edited to remove unneeded quote[/mod:ik2ekmon]
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
Is your IE version 9 ? If so, try updating to IE10.
I saw this bug on IE9, but could not find what's the issue...does IE mean differently here in sketchucation? i understand IE as internet explorer.
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
- Nope, that's not possible. Unfortunately.
- Already working on it.
3&4. Added to my todo list.
cool! we all will be waiting!
i'm always checking for your updates. this plugin is so helpful! thanks!
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IE means the same thing here: Internet Explorer
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It will be avaiblable on mac when it's ready. I don't know when.
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@jgb said:
Since IE and WIN OS share many DLL's that contain these calls, an update to an IE DLL will update an OS DLL, but not necessarily vice versa. The app developer WILL have the latest IE on his system, and may use an "updated" OS call, but if you have an older IE, that call may fail.
Your point is well taken!
Which is why I have always maintained the decision to use Web dialogs in the first place, was a bad idea.Lets face it, a robust SU Ruby API should have been developed with its own graphical interface, not unlike the capability of Python. Its unfortunate Ruby was chosen over Python but that's a story for another day. Instead the SU API developers decided to hitch their horse to the I.E. cart which is about as popular as BING. and also alienates the OSX user.
Lets face it, its almost 2014, and we still have not been able integrate simple graphical information along with user input in a simple format, without a programmer learning 3 other languages to make this work, and also having to be I.E. compliant ..... its downright laughable!
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
- Adds an options to hide the warning for outdated IE versions (This is intended for people with the warning appearing even though their IE is up to date)
How are you detecting the IE version and which versions are detected incorrectly?
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I display a warning with
<!--[if IE 7]> <![endif]-->, etc.
But it seems to catch sometimes compatibility mode even when it's supposed to be disabled. Don't know why... -
Some times? Not consistently?
Do you use the META tag to force embedded IE to use the actual IE IE render engine? Embedded IE is more conservative and it uses an older render mode even if you have a standard doctype. See the Lost Manual for more details: https://github.com/thomthom/sketchup-webdialogs-the-lost-manual/wiki/Doctype---Quirks-vs-Standard-vs-SuperstandardI also think that in one of the recent SU versions there was a registry setting set that would bump up this doc type one version (and that would affect older SU versions on the same machine.) So that might be the reason to why you get seemingly random reports of this. It might be they have versions that trigger the IE7 mode.
By the way, should you not be detecting older versions as well, not just IE7?
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That's interesting.
But how can we force the last version ? Let's say I put<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=10"/>, how will IE8 behave with this ?@tt_su said:
By the way, should you not be detecting older versions as well, not just IE7?
<!--[if lte IE 7]> <![endif]-->Of course I do
, I just display different things depending on the version, so I have two of these.
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