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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      That's not true. You don't have to stretch it. That's not a requirement. You already have the tool. Investigate its functions.

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      • gillesG Offline
        gilles
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        If you have some extra time, this worth reading:

        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44972&hilit=+challenge

        πŸ’š

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        • kenythedudeK Offline
          kenythedude
          last edited by

          The thing is, Dave, I tried it the way you suggested and even after 10 minutes of playing around with it I couldn't get it to work the way I need it to, which is to make the top edge of the piece I'm rotating line up exactly with the face, not point to its vertices.

          I didn't download these plugins willy-nilly; I'm aware of their functionality to the degree that I regularly use them for practical applications, so please don't assume I have just thrown up a request for help without first trying to find a solution elsewhere.

          Gilles, nice challenge. Took me a minute to work it out πŸ˜„

          Both these examples, however, rely on the variable being the length of the diagonal element in order to meet the vertical face. What I need is a way of keeping everything but the angle of rotation exactly the same and making the edge touch the face as described above.

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            Well, excuse my attempt to help. Maybe someone else can make a different suggestion, then.

            The Rotation tool in FredoScale works fine for me. The tilted plane is exactly the same size as the vertical one. It doesn't require the length of the diagonal being variable.

            rotated.png

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            • kenythedudeK Offline
              kenythedude
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              I have been nothing but courteous to you, Dave, so I don't understand your tone. At no point did I say anything to warrant your rudeness. I am legitimately requesting help using the best descriptive language and images I can and I have been met with a condescending attitude.

              I have tried to do exactly what you outlined, but I cannot achieve the result you have. It's hard to tell from the screenshot you've posted, but when I get something that looks like that, zooming in reveals that the faces are either slightly overlapping or not quite touching, no matter how hard I try. I initially thought your solution was viable but realised that, at close examination, it wasn't quite there.

              I genuinely appreciate you taking time to try and help me out, but either I'm misunderstanding your instructions or I'm using the tool wrong, and I don't think either is the case after trying it every-which-way.

              I apologise if I've come across as ungrateful or contrary, that wasn't my intention.

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                I wasn't being rude. My apologies if you took it that way.

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                • kenythedudeK Offline
                  kenythedude
                  last edited by

                  I've obviously just misinterpreted you then; no apology needed.

                  I'm still stuck on this one though 😞

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                  • gillesG Offline
                    gilles
                    last edited by

                    With Fredo scale rotate tool:

                    1 set the axis for rotation
                    2 draw reference direction (on vertical edge of your face)
                    3 pick target point (on the edge you want to touch the other face)
                    4 rotate to the face.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Took me a minute to work it out

                    Really?
                    I'd like to see how you did it.

                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                    • massimoM Offline
                      massimo Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Here is an image of the workflow with the tool that Dave suggested.
                      Cattura.JPG

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                      • kenythedudeK Offline
                        kenythedude
                        last edited by

                        Gilles, allow me to clarify: it took me a minute to think I'd worked it out. Turns out the problem it a lot more complicated than I had initially thought! I'm still trying to work out how to do it.

                        Massimo, I cannot, for the life of me, get the ornage line to come up! Now, I know this can't be a plugin age issue because I only installed SketchUp on my work computer a few days ago and went searching for all the plugins I need, which are all up to date.

                        Is there a trick to getting the orange edge?

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                        • massimoM Offline
                          massimo Moderator
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                          @kenythedude said:

                          Is there a trick to getting the orange edge?

                          Of course that only works if the two rectangles have the same width (like the image you posted). Try to hover along the target rectangle's edge while rotating and you'll find it.

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                          • kenythedudeK Offline
                            kenythedude
                            last edited by

                            @massimo said:

                            Try to hover along the target rectangle's edge while rotating and you'll find it.

                            Yeah, that just isn't happening. πŸ˜•
                            I honestly don't know why...

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              for me it works rotating to the edge, not a face and in either case there is no inference tag. It sort of snaps, that's the only way to tell. And the line doesn't bisect the plane untill you draw over it... for me.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                @kenythedude said:

                                @massimo said:

                                Try to hover along the target rectangle's edge while rotating and you'll find it.

                                Yeah, that just isn't happening. πŸ˜•
                                I honestly don't know why...

                                maybe try it with just lines at first?

                                some more info here regarding usage:

                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=17948&p=404020#p403999

                                dotdotdot

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                                • kenythedudeK Offline
                                  kenythedude
                                  last edited by

                                  As far as I can tell, I've duplicated everything exactly as you guys have done it, but I must be doing something wrong. I'm getting a snap for "Endpoint" "On Edge" "Parallel To Edge" - nothing works.

                                  Thanks for trying guys πŸ˜•

                                  Edit: Yeah Massimo, I tried just edges too; no luck I'm afraid.

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                                  • kenythedudeK Offline
                                    kenythedude
                                    last edited by

                                    Yeah, I think something is messed up with my plugins directory or something, because I'm not getting a lot of the snaps and inferences I should be... I'm going to go check that out.

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                                    • BoxB Offline
                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      Check your modelling scale, snap and precision.
                                      If you are trying to work too small and your snap to precision is set too high inferencing can get screwed up.

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                                      • kenythedudeK Offline
                                        kenythedude
                                        last edited by

                                        Well, I ripped out all the Fredo related plugins and all their relevant bits, then re-inserted freshly downloaded versions; lo and behold, it works! I'm confused as to why, because as far as I can tell, the plugins' file path structure is exactly the same as before.

                                        In any case, thank you everyone for your help!

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