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    [Plugin][$] 3D Tree Maker - New version 1.10.14

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    • R 離線
      rubenamaroh
      最後由 編輯

      Help!!!
      I can't run this ruby, the program display in "Plugins" folder but dont display
      right next to the arrow the window options " New" , "License" and "About", whats wrong?
      Thanks.

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      • TIGT 離線
        TIG Moderator
        最後由 編輯

        Have you got available, and then activated its Toolbar ?
        How did you 'install' it ?

        TIG

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        • deaneauD 離線
          deaneau
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          @tig said:

          Have you got available, and then activated its Toolbar ?
          How did you 'install' it ?

          hi TIG

          i have the same problem in 2013

          in the menue appear only 3d ArcStudio.

          i have installed via sketchucation pluginstore plugin.
          if i try to open the toolbar this will not show in the windows.

          regards dean

          _2014.06.20_10h36m16s_017_00830.jpgToolbars_2014.06.20_10h37m03s_018_00831.jpg

          MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
          Big Thank You to all Programmers
          Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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          • ppoublanP 離線
            ppoublan
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            Dear all,
            Just got an error with one of the version published, that did not work on SU8 nor SU2013.
            Pushed the last one (1.10.11) on Sketchucation and my website.
            Should load and setup menus now on all SU versions.
            Let me know if you discover other errors.
            Pascal

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            • deaneauD 離線
              deaneau
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              @ppoublan said:

              Dear all,
              Just got an error with one of the version published, that did not work on SU8 nor SU2013.
              Pushed the last one (1.10.11) on Sketchucation and my website.
              Should load and setup menus now on all SU versions.
              Let me know if you discover other errors.
              Pascal

              Hello Pascal,
              this work now in 2013

              thank you for your fast respond.

              regards dean

              MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
              Big Thank You to all Programmers
              Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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              • J 離線
                Jorgensen
                最後由 編輯

                Hi Pascal

                I have just purchased the plugin (version 1.10.07) and installed it in SU 8 pro.

                I get an error when I try edit a tree 😕

                Do you know how I can avoid this?

                Thanks

                [EDIT]
                It seems to work if I just press ok.

                Is it somehow possible to speedup the redraw process - I'll have to wait several minutes before the tree is updated 😕

                I guess it's a limitation of Sketchup, but I find the plugin hard to use then I have to wait this long every time 😕


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                sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                • OxerO 離線
                  Oxer
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                  @jorgensen said:

                  Is it somehow possible to speedup the redraw process - I'll have to wait several minutes before the tree is updated

                  I came back to the v1.06.04 because this version draws the trees in few seconds (between 3 and 8 seconds in my computer), but there is one inconvenient, you lose the feature make grass and other features related with the Materials, present in the last version.

                  "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                  http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/

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                  • ppoublanP 離線
                    ppoublan
                    最後由 編輯

                    Hi Jorgensen,

                    @jorgensen said:

                    I get an error when I try edit a tree 😕

                    Did you try with the last version : 1.10.11 that is published in the Plugin store here or from this link :
                    http://www.3darcstudio.com/downloads/3darcstudiotree/3darcstudio_tree_v1.10.11.rbz
                    Download the file,
                    Setup using standard SU rbz extension install
                    After install, exit and restart SU
                    Did the error still occur ?
                    If yes let me know and we will try other tests. First time I see it, so I need more investigation.
                    Does anybody here also got the same error ?

                    @jorgensen said:

                    I guess it's a limitation of Sketchup, but I find the plugin hard to use then I have to wait this long every time 😕

                    Regarding speed:

                    • on 2 different PCs I'm using, drawing a tree is less than 30s for the more complex one and less than 5seconds for the standard generic tree.
                    • be sure you close the Sketchup Outliner window: this is the main cause of slowness I have seen as SU try to refresh outliner for all geometry changes within scripts
                    • ensure also that additional plugins that checks for geometry changes (like render viewport) are not running while you are drawing a tree as they will try to update
                    • the script also runs a little bit faster on SU 2014.

                    Yours
                    Pascal

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                    • ppoublanP 離線
                      ppoublan
                      最後由 編輯

                      Dear all,
                      another tip to use tree maker with better performance, to place trees within large models:

                      • I build/change configuration of the tree in an new empty Sketchup model
                      • When I'm happy with the result, I convert it to proxy with the integrated tree maker proxy function
                      • Then I copy/paste this component (which is small) to the final model where I can make instances
                      • When all trees are in place and I want to render, i use "redraw all" in the final model, this can take some time if many trees, but have to do it only once before rendering
                      • I also use the proxies features of the renders when available (Thea, Octane, ...)
                        Yours
                        Pascal
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                      • ppoublanP 離線
                        ppoublan
                        最後由 編輯

                        @oxer said:

                        I came back to the v1.06.04 because this version draws the trees in few seconds (between 3 and 8 seconds in my computer), but there is one inconvenient, you lose the feature make grass and other features related with the Materials, present in the last version.

                        Hi Oxer,
                        The main difference is that the old version is making SU groups, not components.
                        Using components is really more efficient when you need to place many instances, and you got also a SU file that is lighter.
                        So yes time to draw with the new version is a little bit more slow to draw one tree (on PC), but a lot much faster to redraw 20 or more trees as only the component is rebuild, not all instances.
                        This was the reason I make this change to integrate features like grass.
                        But as I really have acceptable performance on PC/2014 (few seconds to draw most of the trees), maybe i have a specific issue of speed with Mac.
                        I will try to add few time logs to the next version so see what is slowing down the most.
                        Yours
                        Pascal

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                        • OxerO 離線
                          Oxer
                          最後由 編輯

                          I found a plugin that it makes slow down the drawing of trees, BGSketchup_Composants.rb, with this plugin installed the drawing of tree02:Cypress takes 47 seconds, without the plugin installed the drawing takes 12 seconds, other example, the drawing of tree00:Default Generic Tree takes 6 seconds without plugin, with the plugin installed 55 seconds.
                          Mac OSX 10.9.4 & SU2014 with Tree Maker v1.10.11

                          "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                          http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/

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                          • J 離線
                            Jorgensen
                            最後由 編輯

                            I tried to removed all plugins, and the script seems to run ok - but I still get the error.

                            If I install octane render, the problem happens again (things take very long time), even with the Octane Viewport closed.

                            So it seems that octane render somehow sesses things up in my Sketchup.

                            sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                            • ppoublanP 離線
                              ppoublan
                              最後由 編輯

                              Dear all,
                              Just fixed the issue with script error when loading configuration webdialog.
                              New file published in PluginStore and on my website.
                              Version is 3darcstudio_tree_v1.10.11a.rbz
                              Yours
                              Pascal

                              PS : do not understand why javascript is executed differently when called from SU8 and from SU2014, but...

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                              • ppoublanP 離線
                                ppoublan
                                最後由 編輯

                                @oxer said:

                                I found a plugin that it makes slow down the drawing of trees, BGSketchup_Composants.rb, with this plugin installed the drawing of tree02:Cypress takes 47 seconds, without the plugin installed the drawing takes 12 seconds, other example, the drawing of tree00:Default Generic Tree takes 6 seconds without plugin, with the plugin installed 55 seconds.
                                Mac OSX 10.9.4 & SU2014 with Tree Maker v1.10.11

                                Hi Oxer,
                                Great to know. Thanks for tests you made.
                                My understanding is that other plugins may add entities observers to Sketchup to be informed of any entity change. I'm not sure if this is the case for those you mentioned but I will have a look. When this is the case, each time a change is made to an entity, the third plugin is called. As drawing a tree make lots of change to entities within tree component, it add time due to all these calls.
                                Yours

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                                • ppoublanP 離線
                                  ppoublan
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @jorgensen said:

                                  I tried to removed all plugins, and the script seems to run ok - but I still get the error.

                                  Fixed (SU8).

                                  @jorgensen said:

                                  If I install octane render, the problem happens again (things take very long time), even with the Octane Viewport closed.

                                  I'm also using Octane and cant see important additional delay to draw tree when viewport closed, Could you make a test with SU2014 as Octane Plugin is different for SU2014 ?

                                  Yours
                                  Pascal

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                                  • J 離線
                                    Jorgensen
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Hi pascal

                                    Not sure I understand you right, but I don't have sketchup 2014.

                                    Maybe I should reinstall sketchup and octane.

                                    sketchup pro 2016 16.1.1449 64 bit | windows 10 pro | i7-3770k @3.5 GHz | 16gb ram | gtx 780 ti / gtx 980 ti | nvidia driver 368.39

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                                    • ppoublanP 離線
                                      ppoublan
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      You can download SU2014 for free and setup it + Octane Plugin just to see if it change the performance on your environment.

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                                      • N 離線
                                        noicrilo
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        Hi,
                                        this plugin is really awesome, thanks of sharing your work.
                                        I notice on mac OS and sketchup 2014 that the tree bar (with the 4 icons) is always reloaded when program opens,
                                        it is very annoying, can you fix this bug? I’m working with all other features and it seems all fantastic and useful 😄

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                                        • A 離線
                                          albertoricordi
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          QUESTION:

                                          How can I include my own trees in the drop-down menu library?

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                                          • ppoublanP 離線
                                            ppoublan
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @albertoricordi said:

                                            QUESTION:

                                            How can I include my own trees in the drop-down menu library?

                                            Right click on a tree, then "Save as template..."

                                            choose a different file name that the one proposed if you do not want to overwrite existing template. You can also create the preview image (that is displayed when this tree will be selected in the new list)

                                            Yours
                                            Pascal

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