[Plugin][$] 3D Tree Maker - New version 1.10.14

rubenamaroh · 19 Jun 2014, 00:04

Help!!!
I can't run this ruby, the program display in "Plugins" folder but dont display
right next to the arrow the window options " New" , "License" and "About", whats wrong?
Thanks.

TIG · 19 Jun 2014, 08:29

Have you got available, and then activated its Toolbar ?
How did you 'install' it ?

deaneau · 20 Jun 2014, 08:46

@tig said:

Have you got available, and then activated its Toolbar ?
How did you 'install' it ?

hi TIG

i have the same problem in 2013

in the menue appear only 3d ArcStudio.

i have installed via sketchucation pluginstore plugin.
if i try to open the toolbar this will not show in the windows.

regards dean

ppoublan · 20 Jun 2014, 13:24

Dear all,
Just got an error with one of the version published, that did not work on SU8 nor SU2013.
Pushed the last one (1.10.11) on Sketchucation and my website.
Should load and setup menus now on all SU versions.
Let me know if you discover other errors.
Pascal

deaneau · 20 Jun 2014, 15:17

@ppoublan said:

Dear all,
Just got an error with one of the version published, that did not work on SU8 nor SU2013.
Pushed the last one (1.10.11) on Sketchucation and my website.
Should load and setup menus now on all SU versions.
Let me know if you discover other errors.
Pascal

Hello Pascal,
this work now in 2013

thank you for your fast respond.

regards dean

Jorgensen · 6 Jul 2014, 19:30

Hi Pascal

I have just purchased the plugin (version 1.10.07) and installed it in SU 8 pro.

I get an error when I try edit a tree

Do you know how I can avoid this?

Thanks

[EDIT]
It seems to work if I just press ok.

Is it somehow possible to speedup the redraw process - I'll have to wait several minutes before the tree is updated

I guess it's a limitation of Sketchup, but I find the plugin hard to use then I have to wait this long every time

Oxer · 7 Jul 2014, 01:53

@jorgensen said:

Is it somehow possible to speedup the redraw process - I'll have to wait several minutes before the tree is updated

I came back to the v1.06.04 because this version draws the trees in few seconds (between 3 and 8 seconds in my computer), but there is one inconvenient, you lose the feature make grass and other features related with the Materials, present in the last version.

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 05:37

Hi Jorgensen,

@jorgensen said:

I get an error when I try edit a tree

Did you try with the last version : 1.10.11 that is published in the Plugin store here or from this link :
http://www.3darcstudio.com/downloads/3darcstudiotree/3darcstudio_tree_v1.10.11.rbz
Download the file,
Setup using standard SU rbz extension install
After install, exit and restart SU
Did the error still occur ?
If yes let me know and we will try other tests. First time I see it, so I need more investigation.
Does anybody here also got the same error ?

@jorgensen said:

I guess it's a limitation of Sketchup, but I find the plugin hard to use then I have to wait this long every time

Regarding speed:

on 2 different PCs I'm using, drawing a tree is less than 30s for the more complex one and less than 5seconds for the standard generic tree.
be sure you close the Sketchup Outliner window: this is the main cause of slowness I have seen as SU try to refresh outliner for all geometry changes within scripts
ensure also that additional plugins that checks for geometry changes (like render viewport) are not running while you are drawing a tree as they will try to update
the script also runs a little bit faster on SU 2014.

Yours
Pascal

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 05:56

Dear all,
another tip to use tree maker with better performance, to place trees within large models:

I build/change configuration of the tree in an new empty Sketchup model
When I'm happy with the result, I convert it to proxy with the integrated tree maker proxy function
Then I copy/paste this component (which is small) to the final model where I can make instances
When all trees are in place and I want to render, i use "redraw all" in the final model, this can take some time if many trees, but have to do it only once before rendering
I also use the proxies features of the renders when available (Thea, Octane, ...)
Yours
Pascal

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 06:12

@oxer said:

I came back to the v1.06.04 because this version draws the trees in few seconds (between 3 and 8 seconds in my computer), but there is one inconvenient, you lose the feature make grass and other features related with the Materials, present in the last version.

Hi Oxer,
The main difference is that the old version is making SU groups, not components.
Using components is really more efficient when you need to place many instances, and you got also a SU file that is lighter.
So yes time to draw with the new version is a little bit more slow to draw one tree (on PC), but a lot much faster to redraw 20 or more trees as only the component is rebuild, not all instances.
This was the reason I make this change to integrate features like grass.
But as I really have acceptable performance on PC/2014 (few seconds to draw most of the trees), maybe i have a specific issue of speed with Mac.
I will try to add few time logs to the next version so see what is slowing down the most.
Yours
Pascal

Oxer · 7 Jul 2014, 13:30

I found a plugin that it makes slow down the drawing of trees, BGSketchup_Composants.rb, with this plugin installed the drawing of tree02:Cypress takes 47 seconds, without the plugin installed the drawing takes 12 seconds, other example, the drawing of tree00:Default Generic Tree takes 6 seconds without plugin, with the plugin installed 55 seconds.
Mac OSX 10.9.4 & SU2014 with Tree Maker v1.10.11

Jorgensen · 7 Jul 2014, 13:45

I tried to removed all plugins, and the script seems to run ok - but I still get the error.

If I install octane render, the problem happens again (things take very long time), even with the Octane Viewport closed.

So it seems that octane render somehow sesses things up in my Sketchup.

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 14:51

Dear all,
Just fixed the issue with script error when loading configuration webdialog.
New file published in PluginStore and on my website.
Version is 3darcstudio_tree_v1.10.11a.rbz
Yours
Pascal

PS : do not understand why javascript is executed differently when called from SU8 and from SU2014, but...

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 14:56

@oxer said:

I found a plugin that it makes slow down the drawing of trees, BGSketchup_Composants.rb, with this plugin installed the drawing of tree02:Cypress takes 47 seconds, without the plugin installed the drawing takes 12 seconds, other example, the drawing of tree00:Default Generic Tree takes 6 seconds without plugin, with the plugin installed 55 seconds.
Mac OSX 10.9.4 & SU2014 with Tree Maker v1.10.11

Hi Oxer,
Great to know. Thanks for tests you made.
My understanding is that other plugins may add entities observers to Sketchup to be informed of any entity change. I'm not sure if this is the case for those you mentioned but I will have a look. When this is the case, each time a change is made to an entity, the third plugin is called. As drawing a tree make lots of change to entities within tree component, it add time due to all these calls.
Yours

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 15:06

@jorgensen said:

I tried to removed all plugins, and the script seems to run ok - but I still get the error.

Fixed (SU8).

@jorgensen said:

If I install octane render, the problem happens again (things take very long time), even with the Octane Viewport closed.

I'm also using Octane and cant see important additional delay to draw tree when viewport closed, Could you make a test with SU2014 as Octane Plugin is different for SU2014 ?

Yours
Pascal

Jorgensen · 7 Jul 2014, 15:10

Hi pascal

Not sure I understand you right, but I don't have sketchup 2014.

Maybe I should reinstall sketchup and octane.

ppoublan · 7 Jul 2014, 15:20

You can download SU2014 for free and setup it + Octane Plugin just to see if it change the performance on your environment.

noicrilo · 27 Jul 2014, 03:00

Hi,
this plugin is really awesome, thanks of sharing your work.
I notice on mac OS and sketchup 2014 that the tree bar (with the 4 icons) is always reloaded when program opens,
it is very annoying, can you fix this bug? I’m working with all other features and it seems all fantastic and useful

albertoricordi · 29 Aug 2014, 19:14

QUESTION:

How can I include my own trees in the drop-down menu library?

ppoublan · 1 Sept 2014, 21:14

@albertoricordi said:

QUESTION:

How can I include my own trees in the drop-down menu library?

Right click on a tree, then "Save as template..."

choose a different file name that the one proposed if you do not want to overwrite existing template. You can also create the preview image (that is displayed when this tree will be selected in the new list)

Yours
Pascal