SketchUp 2013 ;)
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@tomasz said:
My impression is that SU2013 have been released earlier then expected, because the new feature of "extension warehouse" have had to start competing with SCF "Plugin store" as soon as possible.
actually, I think you have that entirely backward. I don't think it's any coincidence that the Sketchucation version appeared on the very same day as the Beta trials started...and certain people here got to see what was coming.
There is no 'competition' the extension warehouse is built right into the program. Sketchucation always has been a great resource and community, but the plain fact remains that most SU users are unaware of its existence...or if they are, they don't visit. -
@thomthom said:
...the Extension Warehouse. (And that is a big feature - in terms of development time.)
i'm really sorry to hear this...
It's maybe nice to have but not needed. And how does it improve my daily work?!?so i recap:
- improvements over v8: toolbar issue fixed
- new features/improvements for sketchup: 0
thanks!
unbelievable...
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There's many people not aware of the Plugins feature in SketchUp. And the biggest support question I've had as a developer has been about installing plugins. So while it might not be a game-changer for you - there's a huge number of users out there that will benefit from this.
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@alan fraser said:
You can drag icons from one toolbar to another or even create new toolbars from scratch and drag whatever you want to them
Hmm.. I created a new toolbar, thats no problem. But how do you drag icons from the other toolbars to a newly created one?? I tried it in every possible manner- no luck.
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@rv1974 said:
@alan fraser said:
You can drag icons from one toolbar to another or even create new toolbars from scratch and drag whatever you want to them
Hmm.. I created a new toolbar, thats no problem. But how do you drag icons from the other toolbars to a newly created one?? I tried it in every possible manner- no luck.
It only works on native toolbars. Doesn't work on Ruby Toolbars unfortunately.
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and i was hoping for things like speed improvements on basic tasks like explode or copy/paste, better texturing, some plugin tools getting implemented in the core for (much) better performance, or quad/sub-D modeling...
stupid me!
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Wow! Unless there is some really great changes under the hood not obvious yet, this is really disappointing. Higher price, uglier icons, still Ruby 1.6 no improvement in Ruby console (I thought sure the Unit Test stuff would make it in there) etc. etc. etc. Let's hope they did something of value when they expose the under the hood changes. Right now, very disappointing. The one thing that is obvious is the toolbar set up. Nice, but that is a onetime thing and I could easily have lived with the old method. What I don't like about the toolbar behavior is that I can't place a vertical x 2 column on the left or right side. It forces a x 1 horizontal column. Whose brain fart was that? This has me depressed.
The cross section stuff in LayOut is nice, but it would have been better if it were integrated into the Section tool in SketchUp. I haven't checked my list of bugs yet, but I bet when I do printing to scale and printing extents still isn't fixed; a problem that has existed since the beginning of time. So far Trimble gets a failing grade from me for its influence on SketchUp.
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@gus r said:
Copied and pasted the plugins folder from SU 8 and had to remove some demo rendering folders and rubies. ...
Please do not do this.
First check the Extension Warehouse for v2013 compatible versions of your favorite plugins, and use those (not the ones from v8 or earlier!)
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@thomthom said:
@rv1974 said:
@alan fraser said:
You can drag icons from one toolbar to another or even create new toolbars from scratch and drag whatever you want to them
Hmm.. I created a new toolbar, thats no problem. But how do you drag icons from the other toolbars to a newly created one?? I tried it in every possible manner- no luck.
It only works on native toolbars. Doesn't work on Ruby Toolbars unfortunately.
And also - note that the default action is to Move the button - press Ctrl to copy it.They must be scoffing there at Troogle
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
@thomthom said:
There are more improvements, but under the hood.
Which are ?...
He does not know.
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@ilay7k said:
@jiminy-billy-bob said:
@thomthom said:
There are more improvements, but under the hood.
Which are ?...
He does not know.
There are not new features. What do you know what I know?
One of the things under the hood is a new supported C API SDK aimed to replaced the old unsupported C++ API SDK.
Not something the end user benefits from directly right now, something that benefits the whole SketchUp ecosystem in the long run.
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I heard about this release on the Maxwell forum and decided to come by to see exactly how bad it actually was -- and it's actually worse than I expected... that's hilarious. I especially like to see the people desperately trying to find something to be enthusiastic about... you've been trolled by Trimble, time to move on.
This is may be the worst full version update I've seen yet -- the licensing is a joke and I am now %100 convinced to give my money to another software company and never look back again.
If I hear at some point that Bacus is fired I may take a look at SketchUp again (unlikely though), until then have fun paying for this joke
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I'm simply speechless. Do they really believe that the majority of Pro users are willing to pay for this "maintenance/ bugfix" update!?
For the new feature of the customizable toolbar - this has been possible in the Mac version a long time ago already incl. for 3rd party tools and ruby plugins. But now it can only be customized with native tools(!). Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools.. Sorry, but this is a step back and not a new feature! Now given the speedy development of the past, one tends to assume that it might get re-addressed again as a "new feature" in SU2014.. -
@archheni said:
Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools..
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Hi
AMAZING!
You probably all missed the best feature!!! The old boring google Susan is finally replaced by fancy Trimble Derrick...wohooo I am excited! -
@stebehan said:
Hi
AMAZING!
You probably all missed the best feature!!! The old boring google Susan is finally replaced by fancy Trimble Derrick...wohooo I am excited!..And the best about this amazing new best feature of Trimble Derrick is his hidden ironic statement: "This ain't our first rodeo." Well..
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@seasdes said:
Anyone having trouble buying the upgrade?
I keep getting a message that I have entered incorrect licence info.
I entered the licence info by copying and pasting from the licence info that was emailed to me by Google when I upgraded to V8.Confusing and poorly thought out to say the least.
What I did:
I paid for the upgrade.
They sent me license info, etc. by email.
I downloaded SketchUp 2013 Pro
Then I opened the program and went to Help > License, etc and inputted my new license info and that worked.I have no idea what the page you get when you try to upgrade through the website is supposed to do. It wouldn't take my old license info, my new license info, nothing.
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@aerilius said:
@chiefwoodworker said:
So far Trimble gets a failing grade from me for its influence on SketchUp.
In what way does Trimble show a different influence than Google? I don't see any influence.
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While the development team has been continuously grown at a rapid rate, I'd expect visible changes to appear through the Extension Warehouse. This is the way through which Trimble and SketchUp give you new tools.
You are correct. You don't see any [Trimble] influence. That's sad.
Interesting business model you articulated. Trimble/SketchUp introduces a major release with no incremental features and charges more for it. Adds an extension's store for hobby Rubyist's to create new features and distribute them, which has no cost to Trimble, but has the effect of SketchUp features improving. In other words, Trimble profiting on the backs of the Rubyist's.
Don't misunderstand me, I am a huge fan of SketchUp and the Ruby API. And I am ok with that model. But it seems that Trimble could at least do something for the Rubyist's, like upgrade to 1.9 or 2.0, add a Unit Test feature to the Console, allow for multiple lines of code in the console, fix some bugs that have been around forever like print to scale, and a whole host of method bugs (which may be fixed, but until I see the fix I am skeptical).
I hope you are correct that Trimble is putting in place an infrastructure that will bring great things in the future. But this major version release surely does not hint of that.
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