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    • F Offline
      Futurepast
      last edited by

      @mac1 said:

      @futurepast said:

      Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

      Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work

      Have you looked at the link provided above? The draw metal plugin lets you draw it no time or does it not work as shown

      You create just the spiral and then you have to ungroup it for cris's tool to work. The part gets bent around the spiral

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        mac1
        last edited by

        @futurepast said:

        @mac1 said:

        @futurepast said:

        Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

        Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work

        Have you looked at the link provided above? The draw metal plugin lets you draw it no time or does it not work as shown

        You create just the spiral and then you have to ungroup it for cris's tool to work. The part gets bent around the spiral

        Sorry I did not make myself very clear or did not understand your post.
        The link I was referring was the one I posted early in the thread. It is a youtube video showing how to draw the 3d involoute using the draw metal plugin and does not use the shape bender. The plugin gives you the specific path profile and you can use the FAK to draw the profile you want. Here is the link for it http://www.drawmetal.com/download

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        • jacbk612J Offline
          jacbk612
          last edited by

          Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

          Jacques


          volute-test4.jpg

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            mac1
            last edited by

            @jacbk612 said:

            Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

            Jacques

            This is what you can get using the draw metal plugin. The plugin also has a taper maker but have not tried that yet.
            Need for you to define the dimensions as well as the desired extruded cross section profiles

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @jacbk612 said:

              Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft

              right.. curviloft is the correct tool to use.. but do it like this instead..

              cloft.jpg

              [edit].. well.. what p just said before me.. lol..
              sorry.. i'll leave this up for the visuals..

              dotdotdot

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              • BoxB Online
                Box
                last edited by

                Here's a five minute version done with Curve Maker and Taper Maker and all else standard tools. I think that's the sort of general shape you want.


                Pump0.JPG


                Took longer to animate than to draw.

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                  mac1
                  last edited by

                  Update, 6 dia, no eye, taper round .5 to .25". 1 turn h=3"
                  Waiting on dimensions and taper cross section ( selection limited to round, rect, diamond,>.....

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    If the taper is geometric along the length, I found using Curviloft "create loft junctions along a given path" worked in one process.

                    I used BZ Toolbar curves uniform B- spline (though other ways should work), Chris Fullmer Perpendicular Face tools to put a circle on each end, and curviloft- using just a beginning and ending circle. Just an idea if it works for you.

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    • gillesG Offline
                      gilles
                      last edited by

                      Native tools.


                      centrifugal pump_V6.skp


                      centrifugal pump.png

                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                      • jacbk612J Offline
                        jacbk612
                        last edited by

                        Gilles, this approach seems like the most promising. The loft path seems like a single curve, how was it achieved? Is it a bezier curve?

                        Thanks,

                        Jacques

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          2 tangent arcs-circle ?

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • gillesG Offline
                            gilles
                            last edited by

                            Two tangent arcs.

                            Edit: did you open the file?


                            part 2


                            centrifugal pump_V6.skp

                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              gilles
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                              😲

                              J'avoue ne pas comprendre. ❓

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @ Gilles : Non même pas, j'avais même pas vu qu'il y a avait un fichier à charger! 🤓
                                car d'habitude les fichiers à charger sont en fin de post!
                                mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                                Et merci pour les V6! Ah si tout le monde en faisait autant! ☀

                                dog01.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  C'était pourtant évident! 💚

                                  bleudesmersdusud.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • gillesG Offline
                                    gilles
                                    last edited by

                                    Pourquoi faire compliqué quand on peut faire simple...

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    • jacbk612J Offline
                                      jacbk612
                                      last edited by

                                      Gilles, thank you that is excellent and simple.

                                      I will use English to include all our other friends.

                                      I did open the file but I don't think you can tell in sketchup what type of line it is, are all curved lines arcs or circles probably not.

                                      Jacques

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                                      • jacbk612J Offline
                                        jacbk612
                                        last edited by

                                        I plan to build up this pump completely with an impeller and everything and then run the Khamsin CFD plugin to see if I can get a nice real time simulation.

                                        Gilles, is this something you are familiar with? Does this sound feasible?

                                        Jacques

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
                                          last edited by

                                          Entity info tells you what a selected thing is.

                                          Building the pump is feasible with SU, hope you got better blueprints or a model.

                                          I don't have knowledge about Khamsin CFD .

                                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                            Futurepast
                                            last edited by

                                            I have been thinking about this all week! Giles your approach follows the KISS formula. All the newbies (myself included) want a "plugin" to do everything fast and easy but sometimes you have to step back and look at what you got... and what you know. You reshaped my thinking.....thank you.

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