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    • jacbk612J Offline
      jacbk612
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      So I think there is a possibility by using fredo's curviloft using arcs as the loft path. I have included a sequence of skp images, hopefully everyone can see these.

      The idea is that the start and stop part of the loft could be made to intersect and then I could run a cylinder through the center of the whole thing and have my volute.

      Right now the top part is being done with the last part of the loft line as a bezier and it looks a bit squished, don't know if I am doing something wrong.

      Jacques


      volute-test1.skp


      volute-test2.skp


      volute-test3.skp

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      • jacbk612J Offline
        jacbk612
        last edited by

        this doesn't look like the best way to display an image maybe I should of made a jpg?

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        • jacbk612J Offline
          jacbk612
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          jpg files atached


          volute-test1.jpg


          volute-test2.jpg


          volute-test3.jpg

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            Futurepast
            last edited by

            Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

            Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work


            Untitled.skp

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            • M Offline
              mac1
              last edited by

              @futurepast said:

              Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

              Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work

              Have you looked at the link provided above? The draw metal plugin lets you draw it no time or does it not work as shown

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                Futurepast
                last edited by

                I guess you are right lol I didn't play with any paramaters but I think it can do what he wants by changing the diamiters at each end


                Untitled.skp

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                  Futurepast
                  last edited by

                  @mac1 said:

                  @futurepast said:

                  Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

                  Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work

                  Have you looked at the link provided above? The draw metal plugin lets you draw it no time or does it not work as shown

                  You create just the spiral and then you have to ungroup it for cris's tool to work. The part gets bent around the spiral

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                    mac1
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                    @futurepast said:

                    @mac1 said:

                    @futurepast said:

                    Is this what you want? I use d Cris Fulmers bending tool to bend a flat impeller around the spiral from the vid above, and just rotated a few times. Oh I see you want the tube. Should bend the same way?

                    Just checked yes it works but you have to "explode" the spiral for Cris's tool to work

                    Have you looked at the link provided above? The draw metal plugin lets you draw it no time or does it not work as shown

                    You create just the spiral and then you have to ungroup it for cris's tool to work. The part gets bent around the spiral

                    Sorry I did not make myself very clear or did not understand your post.
                    The link I was referring was the one I posted early in the thread. It is a youtube video showing how to draw the 3d involoute using the draw metal plugin and does not use the shape bender. The plugin gives you the specific path profile and you can use the FAK to draw the profile you want. Here is the link for it http://www.drawmetal.com/download

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                    • jacbk612J Offline
                      jacbk612
                      last edited by

                      Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

                      Jacques


                      volute-test4.jpg

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                      • M Offline
                        mac1
                        last edited by

                        @jacbk612 said:

                        Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

                        Jacques

                        This is what you can get using the draw metal plugin. The plugin also has a taper maker but have not tried that yet.
                        Need for you to define the dimensions as well as the desired extruded cross section profiles

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @jacbk612 said:

                          Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft

                          right.. curviloft is the correct tool to use.. but do it like this instead..

                          cloft.jpg

                          [edit].. well.. what p just said before me.. lol..
                          sorry.. i'll leave this up for the visuals..

                          dotdotdot

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                          • BoxB Online
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            Here's a five minute version done with Curve Maker and Taper Maker and all else standard tools. I think that's the sort of general shape you want.


                            Pump0.JPG


                            Took longer to animate than to draw.

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                              mac1
                              last edited by

                              Update, 6 dia, no eye, taper round .5 to .25". 1 turn h=3"
                              Waiting on dimensions and taper cross section ( selection limited to round, rect, diamond,>.....

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
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                                If the taper is geometric along the length, I found using Curviloft "create loft junctions along a given path" worked in one process.

                                I used BZ Toolbar curves uniform B- spline (though other ways should work), Chris Fullmer Perpendicular Face tools to put a circle on each end, and curviloft- using just a beginning and ending circle. Just an idea if it works for you.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                • gillesG Offline
                                  gilles
                                  last edited by

                                  Native tools.


                                  centrifugal pump_V6.skp


                                  centrifugal pump.png

                                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                  • jacbk612J Offline
                                    jacbk612
                                    last edited by

                                    Gilles, this approach seems like the most promising. The loft path seems like a single curve, how was it achieved? Is it a bezier curve?

                                    Thanks,

                                    Jacques

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      2 tangent arcs-circle ?

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • gillesG Offline
                                        gilles
                                        last edited by

                                        Two tangent arcs.

                                        Edit: did you open the file?


                                        part 2


                                        centrifugal pump_V6.skp

                                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                                          😲

                                          J'avoue ne pas comprendre. ❓

                                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @ Gilles : Non même pas, j'avais même pas vu qu'il y a avait un fichier à charger! 🤓
                                            car d'habitude les fichiers à charger sont en fin de post!
                                            mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                                            Et merci pour les V6! Ah si tout le monde en faisait autant! ☀

                                            dog01.jpg

                                            Frenchy Pilou
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                                            My Little site :)

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