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    • jacbk612J Offline
      jacbk612
      last edited by

      Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

      Jacques


      volute-test4.jpg

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      • M Offline
        mac1
        last edited by

        @jacbk612 said:

        Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft and arcs. I will get the proper representation of a volute curve and raw that loft properly, then it just needs to be intersected at the top, and a cylinder punched through.

        Jacques

        This is what you can get using the draw metal plugin. The plugin also has a taper maker but have not tried that yet.
        Need for you to define the dimensions as well as the desired extruded cross section profiles

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          @jacbk612 said:

          Right, here's a better version of this,I am just using curviloft

          right.. curviloft is the correct tool to use.. but do it like this instead..

          cloft.jpg

          [edit].. well.. what p just said before me.. lol..
          sorry.. i'll leave this up for the visuals..

          dotdotdot

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            Here's a five minute version done with Curve Maker and Taper Maker and all else standard tools. I think that's the sort of general shape you want.


            Pump0.JPG


            Took longer to animate than to draw.

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            • M Offline
              mac1
              last edited by

              Update, 6 dia, no eye, taper round .5 to .25". 1 turn h=3"
              Waiting on dimensions and taper cross section ( selection limited to round, rect, diamond,>.....

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
                last edited by

                If the taper is geometric along the length, I found using Curviloft "create loft junctions along a given path" worked in one process.

                I used BZ Toolbar curves uniform B- spline (though other ways should work), Chris Fullmer Perpendicular Face tools to put a circle on each end, and curviloft- using just a beginning and ending circle. Just an idea if it works for you.

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                • gillesG Offline
                  gilles
                  last edited by

                  Native tools.


                  centrifugal pump_V6.skp


                  centrifugal pump.png

                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                  • jacbk612J Offline
                    jacbk612
                    last edited by

                    Gilles, this approach seems like the most promising. The loft path seems like a single curve, how was it achieved? Is it a bezier curve?

                    Thanks,

                    Jacques

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      2 tangent arcs-circle ?

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • gillesG Offline
                        gilles
                        last edited by

                        Two tangent arcs.

                        Edit: did you open the file?


                        part 2


                        centrifugal pump_V6.skp

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        • gillesG Offline
                          gilles
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                          😲

                          J'avoue ne pas comprendre. ❓

                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            @ Gilles : Non même pas, j'avais même pas vu qu'il y a avait un fichier à charger! 🤓
                            car d'habitude les fichiers à charger sont en fin de post!
                            mais je me doutais que le "bleu des mers du sud" avait encore dû frapper! 😉

                            Et merci pour les V6! Ah si tout le monde en faisait autant! ☀

                            dog01.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              C'était pourtant évident! 💚

                              bleudesmersdusud.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • gillesG Offline
                                gilles
                                last edited by

                                Pourquoi faire compliqué quand on peut faire simple...

                                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                • jacbk612J Offline
                                  jacbk612
                                  last edited by

                                  Gilles, thank you that is excellent and simple.

                                  I will use English to include all our other friends.

                                  I did open the file but I don't think you can tell in sketchup what type of line it is, are all curved lines arcs or circles probably not.

                                  Jacques

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                                  • jacbk612J Offline
                                    jacbk612
                                    last edited by

                                    I plan to build up this pump completely with an impeller and everything and then run the Khamsin CFD plugin to see if I can get a nice real time simulation.

                                    Gilles, is this something you are familiar with? Does this sound feasible?

                                    Jacques

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                                    • gillesG Offline
                                      gilles
                                      last edited by

                                      Entity info tells you what a selected thing is.

                                      Building the pump is feasible with SU, hope you got better blueprints or a model.

                                      I don't have knowledge about Khamsin CFD .

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      • F Offline
                                        Futurepast
                                        last edited by

                                        I have been thinking about this all week! Giles your approach follows the KISS formula. All the newbies (myself included) want a "plugin" to do everything fast and easy but sometimes you have to step back and look at what you got... and what you know. You reshaped my thinking.....thank you.

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                                        • M Offline
                                          mac1
                                          last edited by

                                          @jacbk612 said:

                                          I plan to build up this pump completely with an impeller and everything and then run the Khamsin CFD plugin to see if I can get a nice real time simulation.

                                          Gilles, is this something you are familiar with? Does this sound feasible?

                                          Jacques

                                          Gilles did a supper job of showing the approach. However, if you are going to spend the model effort and then simulation I would to suggest for your consideration:
                                          Draw metal plugin will draw a volute for you vs using vs the two arcs. I used the radius shown in the drawing and 4turns to get a close fit then cut that to 1 turn.I think this approach will allow you to set the impeller differential spacing side to side more accurately. I spent some time trying to get better edge detection vs the raster dwg but no joy so far. TIF format would probably be better;
                                          Khamsin has a YouTube video showing the simulation of a 250 cc kart. I was not able to find any definition for the system requirements but it was mentioned dual cores are required for some functions. In addition it has some 700,000 faces( as best as could tell) and appears to require 10+ hours to run. The point, make sure you look at your system, memory requirements etc so you know you have the hardware to run it.
                                          Good Luck here is a link that may have data of interest to you http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijrm/2011/137860/

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                                          • S Offline
                                            sbastos
                                            last edited by

                                            @jacbk612 said:

                                            I plan to build up this pump completely with an impeller and everything and then run the Khamsin CFD plugin to see if I can get a nice real time simulation.

                                            Gilles, is this something you are familiar with? Does this sound feasible?

                                            Jacques

                                            Hello Jacques,

                                            Could you get it done?
                                            I am planning to design a pump and use Khamsin CFD, but I am just begining to work with Sketchup.

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