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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
      last edited by

      Ok, I did the whole kmz export thing and have a folder showing all the textures in my model. Here's the problem

      The folder shows that there are 531 materials in my model. My Materials Window shows only 314 materials. Of those 531 materials, over 300 of them are very tiny (under 1kb) textures, so tiny I can't even tell what they are. Here are some of them --
      a.jpg
      None of these tiny materials show up in my Materials Window. So what's going on?

      The second part of my question concerns problems with deleting materials from my Materials Window. Sometimes it works, but sometimes I simply cannot delete a material. I click on it, then right click for my options, but then it hangs for awhile, my screen flashes, and nothing happens. I know I saw a post here not too long ago about this, and it seems like it might have had a useable solution, but of course I cannot find it now.

      Any help would be greatly appreciated

      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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      • cottyC Offline
        cotty
        last edited by

        Does a triangulation before the export reduce the tiny textures?

        my SketchUp gallery

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
          last edited by

          @cotty said:

          Does a triangulation before the export reduce the tiny textures?

          I had this video in mind...

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            @cotty said:

            Does a triangulation before the export reduce the tiny textures?

            I am pretty sure this is the solution. When there is a distorted material in SU, the collada exporter "explodes" that material into as many pieces as facets you have applied it to. Triangulation will prevent this.

            As for the material browser issue, this might be the other topic but I see no solution for it (nor I have ever experienced it before so I am stumped)

            Gai...

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Image elements also contains textures.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                I'm trying your triangulation theory, but it has been triangulating for almost 30 minutes. Is this normal or is it hung up?

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • Rich O BrienR Online
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Depends on the density of the mesh and if SU needs to triangulate Ngons.

                  SU is basically crunching the numbers to cut up your mesh into tris and this can take time. Leave it think. It will do it but it might just take some time.

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                  • hellnbakH Offline
                    hellnbak
                    last edited by

                    I waited over two hours, even tho the Task Manager showed SU as not responding, on the off-chance that it might actually be doing something useful. Then I shut it down. I know I didn't have that many non-triangulated faces in there.

                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                    • Rich O BrienR Online
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Can you email me the file?

                      richob[at]sketchucation.com

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
                        last edited by

                        @rich o brien said:

                        Can you email me the file?

                        richob[at]sketchucation.com

                        It's over 45mb.

                        What I'll probably try next is to copy parts of it into a new instance of SU, then check each one to see if that part includes all the tiny textures. If and when I find the culprit I'll try triangulating it and see if that solved the problem.

                        Sound worthwhile?

                        (of course doing this will probably bring into play the problems associated with copying and pasting, but what you gonna do? πŸ˜„

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • Rich O BrienR Online
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          use my color ngon plugin to colour a face the has more than # edges.

                          then select these faces by right clicking the texture in the materials browser

                          then triangulate this selection

                          do this in chunks

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
                            last edited by

                            GOT IT!!

                            First I deleted anything that was not mine, namely the plants and tree. That got rid of all the tiny green textures. The only ones left seemed to be red, about the color of the Coke machine. Deleted that, and no more tiny textures. Down to just 137 textures now.

                            Now I'll try copying and pasting it and triangulating it, see if that works.

                            (should have known better than to download something from the Warehouse. Guess I'll have to learn to make my own plants and trees. Great! one more thing to learn πŸ˜’ )

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • Rich O BrienR Online
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by

                              please don't start making other stuff...every you do turns to gold πŸ˜‰

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
                                last edited by

                                Well, triangulation didn't seem to agree with my Coke machine --

                                b.jpg

                                Don't know why this model should cause a problem, just used normal methods.

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • hellnbakH Offline
                                  hellnbak
                                  last edited by

                                  @rich o brien said:

                                  ...every you do turns to gold πŸ˜‰

                                  Actually another color is more accurate...sort of brownish πŸ˜†

                                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Can you send me the Coke machine and I have a blast?

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                    • hellnbakH Offline
                                      hellnbak
                                      last edited by

                                      @rich o brien said:

                                      Can you send me the Coke machine and I have a blast?

                                      You want the triangulated or non-triangulated version?

                                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Online
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        non-tri with textures not f$&ked up

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                        • hellnbakH Offline
                                          hellnbak
                                          last edited by

                                          Oh, I get it now....."Coke" machine πŸ˜†

                                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok, here it is. Keep in mind that it is just "set dressing" and not meant to stand up to close scrutiny as a stand-alone model.


                                            coke machine.skp

                                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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