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    • Mike LuceyM Offline
      Mike Lucey
      last edited by

      Now we are getting places.

      TIG, would that table have a bit of wobble potential? Also I think Steve might be right about the backs not being too comfy.

      Have you a pic of a 'foot-operated bottle-jack mechanism'? I'm curious about that.

      I'm not so sure about the seats being on casters but they could be lockable. I think slides might work better.

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      • A Offline
        ArCAD-UK
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        An octagonal shape applied to TIG's design would sort out the seat backs.

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          http://cdn.dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/combined-wood-table-chairs-design.jpg

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          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          • hellnbakH Offline
            hellnbak
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            One possible solution to the seat-back

            Sorta looks like a toilet with the seat folded down πŸ˜†


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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
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              Maybe a couple of padded armrests for comfort (they could flip up for extra storage)


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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                Nice render Pete. But that a full size table. We are trying to figure out a dual coffee / dining table.

                Steve, yep! It does look like a commode ..... maybe an idea?

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
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                  When the meal is just too good to interrupt.....


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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    πŸ˜†

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
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                      ...... now a sound proof private curtain πŸ˜‰

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
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                        Some cultures consider it a compliment to the cook when you belch at the table. This just takes the compliment to a whole new level.

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                          Mike Lucey
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                          .....may as well go the full hog and build in an air extractor πŸ’­

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            Here's v2 with a more stable table base and a seat back...


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                            TIG

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
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                              Here's v3 - it has a more logical base made from swastika dado lapped 'base-feet' and a simpler back made form the same thickness foam as the seat...


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                              TIG

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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
                                last edited by

                                Good idea to make the seat-back lower with the rest of the back. I enjoy seeing how a project develops.

                                Some questions -

                                Why not make the seat-back flush with the top of the L-shaped assembly? It's very low anyhow, this would give more support.

                                Are you going to round the edges of the wood?

                                Will there be some sort of handle/cutout to grasp to raise/lower the seat-back?

                                I'll go away now

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @hellnbak said:

                                  Good idea to make the seat-back lower with the rest of the back. I enjoy seeing how a project develops.

                                  Some questions -

                                  Why not make the seat-back flush with the top of the L-shaped assembly? It's very low anyhow, this would give more support.

                                  Are you going to round the edges of the wood?

                                  Will there be some sort of handle/cutout to grasp to raise/lower the seat-back?

                                  I'll go away now
                                  The top of the 'pad' is lower because it must fit under the table top in the lowered-position.
                                  This small upstand gives something to hold when sliding the L-shaped-back upwards.
                                  It could incorporate a routered 'internal' horizontal finger 'groove' for a grip - leaving the outside faces all similar and flush/flat.
                                  The main external corners of the panels are shown rounded by 10mm, the other edges of the panels could be given a 'pencil-round' [3mm?]
                                  We have yet to devise 'sliders/locking-catches' for the L-back, the chairs' castors/slides/glides, and the 'bottle-jack' to lift/lower the table-top from 'coffee' to 'dining' ???

                                  TIG

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @hellnbak said:

                                    Good idea to make the seat-back lower with the rest of the back. I enjoy seeing how a project develops.

                                    Some questions -

                                    Why not make the seat-back flush with the top of the L-shaped assembly? It's very low anyhow, this would give more support.

                                    Are you going to round the edges of the wood?

                                    Will there be some sort of handle/cutout to grasp to raise/lower the seat-back?

                                    I'll go away now
                                    The top of the 'pad' is lower because it must fit under the table top in the lowered-position.
                                    This small upstand gives something to hold when sliding the L-shaped back up.
                                    It could incorporate a routered 'internal' horizontal finger 'groove' for a grip - leaving the outside faces all similar and flush/flat.
                                    The main external corners of the panels are shown rounded by 10mm, the other edges of the panels could be given a 'pencil-round' [3mm?]
                                    We have yet to devise 'sliders/locking-catches' for the L-back, the chairs' castors/slides/glides, and the 'bottle-jack' to lift/lower the table-top from 'coffee' to 'dining' ???

                                    TIG

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                                    • J Offline
                                      jsmith
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                                      Beautiful thinking outside the box!

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        So.....not what you were looking for? 😞


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                                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                          Mike Lucey
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                                          Not quite Steve πŸ˜‰

                                          Anyway, did a bit more on it. I went with an octagonal top and used dowels to get around the Coffee and Dining heights. It would be a mater of lifting the table out from the coffee table position, turning it 45 degrees and popping it back into the slots for the dinging position. I imagine is these dowels were hardwood they would be reasonably ridged.

                                          I also figured out a simple way to hold the seat back in the upright position by having a drop down hinged prop.

                                          Non of this is high tech but again I wanted something that could be knocked out in a small workshop.


                                          ![Coffee-Dining-Storage (COFFEE POSITION] v3.jpg](/uploads/imported_attachments/4kt9_Coffee-Dining-StorageCOFFEEPOSITIONv3.jpg)


                                          Coffee-Dining-Storage [DINING POSITION] v3.jpg


                                          Coffee-Dining-Storage v3.skp

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
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                                            Nice idea, but (me being me) I do have one or two observations --

                                            Don't know how much the top might weigh, but seems it might be difficult aligning the dowels into the holes once the top was lifted. You would be unable to actually see the holes because you would be looking down at the table top. Unless you went with your original idea and used a glass tabletop, but then you've got the weight problem again. Also it seems like the dowels would have to be pretty long to provide stability once it's in the raised position, requiring it to be lifted even higher, and they would have to fit very snugly in the holes or the top would wobble. I would also be a bit concerned that this appears to be a two-person operation. Would be much preferable (to me) and more appealing to those that might be interested in your design, to have just one person be able do the transformation from coffee table to dining table, and back again.

                                            Just my thoughts, playing Devil's advocate here

                                            am I becoming a pain yet?

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