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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      This using the native tools extends selected edges to a line


      Capture.PNG

      TIG

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
        last edited by

        I think mine, like TIGs is simplest. Just draw the line and remove excess. It takes less time than making post.

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
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          @pbacot said:

          I think mine, like TIGs is simplest. Just draw the line and remove excess. It takes less time than making post.

          right.. but you'll still have to calculate the height of the final line in order to get the proper angle.. maths or some variation on the third pic i posted..

          but after that point, fredoscale makes quick work of it.. 2 mouse clicks..

          dotdotdot

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            actually.. a quicker way to get the angle would be to have all the lines arrayed โ€” longer than necessary..

            then just draw a line from the start point that goes over one / up one...
            line from the start point to the new point and enter a distance longer than necessary..

            dotdotdot

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
              last edited by

              no no no mon amis.

              You make the first line the correct starting height. you make a copy at the correct interval and add the 30 mm. You draw a line (just like getting a stair angle) from top of first to second. You array remaining lines very long at the same interval. You draw a line from the angled line using the pink inference. select the top lines and erase.

              You only have to know the givens: first line height, increment of increase, intervals.

              (like you said the second time)

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • D Offline
                davecon
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                aaargh I feel like such a newbie! ๐Ÿ˜„

                I can manage to do what Tig and Pbacot have suggested and that seems to work ok on a straight line (but not on a curve or spiral), but I cannot seem to make Jeff's suggestion work. I have got the fredoscale plugin but cannot get it to do what I need.

                So I set my line like this
                line before taper.jpg

                Then using the tapering tool (tried both by box and target) select the line on the right and click on the bottom right and then to the top left and click
                during taper.jpg

                and all I get is this
                after taper.jpg

                I am obviously doing something wrong but I have no idea where I am making a mistake.

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                • Jean LemireJ Offline
                  Jean Lemire
                  last edited by

                  I folks.

                  If you know the increment in height, the distance between lines and the number of required lines, there are no calculations involved and no plugins required.

                  Click in sequence on the scenes tabs of this SU file for ideas.


                  Array of lines of uniformly changing length.skp

                  Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                  • D Offline
                    davecon
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the help so far everyone ๐Ÿ˜„

                    I have got the hang of doing this on a straight line, now the complex bit is trying to do it on a spiral. Currently I am trying to turn the model on the left (spiral with even length lines) in the model on the right (spiral with lines increasing by XX per length)
                    spiral lines.jpg

                    Ideally what I would like to be able to do is select the first line (red) and then the last line (green) and be able to input something like "starting the with the first line make all the others increase in XXmm increments"

                    Here is the file itself so far.
                    spiral lines.skp

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                    • gillesG Offline
                      gilles
                      last edited by

                      My two cents, no plugin.


                      V6 for Pilou's Minitel

                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        V6 for Pilou's Minitel

                        -Thx for my Minitel: every people should make the same! ๐Ÿ˜„

                        http://www.blog-agri.com/ticagri/wp-content/minitel.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
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                          This is how I'd do it...
                          There are scripts [by me?] that that will add simple cylinder components, scaling lengths to match selected lines length in Z... Search the Plugins Index...


                          spiral lines.PNG


                          spiral lines.skp

                          TIG

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                          • pbacotP Offline
                            pbacot
                            last edited by

                            Davecon,

                            I notice that you are also working on a straight line, so why not use the simple way? You can also curve your array of lines after making the varied line lengths.

                            In using the box tapering tool are you grouping the lines first? It doesn't look like it. You would get a rectangle designated by the tool. It appears you are only working on one line. Most, if not all, of the FredOscale tools operate on groups and components. That is a clean way to do it once you know the end length or you set guideline based on the increment. I can't imagine how it would work on a curve either.

                            Peter
                            Screen shot 2012-05-30 at 7.28.05 AM.png
                            Screen shot 2012-05-30 at 7.32.03 AM.png
                            Screen shot 2012-05-30 at 7.29.43 AM.png

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            • gillesG Offline
                              gilles
                              last edited by

                              Or, make it flat then use Shapebender.

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                a rough go at doing this with a dynamic componentโ€ฆ

                                select the line at the origin then Window -> Component Optionsโ€ฆ. change the "# of vertical lines per turn" option for immediate results..

                                i plotted the lines using this..
                                x = a(t) cos(t), y = a(t) sin(t)

                                which looks like this: (archimedean spiral)

                                spiral04.gif
                                spiral05.gif

                                spiral_lines.jpg

                                dotdotdot

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  โ€ข

                                  another methodโ€ฆ

                                  click pic -> bigger

                                  curvishear is part of FredoTools..
                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=42089

                                  curviLoft is here:
                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=28586

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jeff
                                    Shadowline on the ground of the Curvishear is very elegant! โ˜€ (middle drawing image)

                                    Not possible to make a curve with it ? (maybe a script is yet existing ? )

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      @Jeff
                                      Shadowline on the ground of the Curvyshear is very elegant! โ˜€ (middle drawing image)

                                      Not possible to make a curve with it ?

                                      hmm.. not that i know of.. would be neat if you could though..

                                      (actually, you could probably project the geometry somehow?? i think there might even be a plugin that could do it?)

                                      dotdotdot

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @Jeff
                                        Shadowline on the ground of the Curvyshear is very elegant! โ˜€ (middle drawing image)

                                        Not possible to make a curve with it ?

                                        hmm.. not that i know of.. would be neat if you could though..

                                        (actually, you could probably project the geometry somehow?? i think there might even be a plugin that could do it?)

                                        ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

                                        1. set sun directly overhead to be used as a preview..
                                        2. orient the helix to your liking using the shadow as a guide..
                                        3. sandbox-> drapeโ€ฆ

                                        project.jpg

                                        project2.jpg

                                        project3.jpg[/off:aznqnqp7]

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          So that was simple! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                                          I will try that because seems too simple for to be true! ๐Ÿ’š

                                          About the first problem
                                          I am waiting the Sdmitch autorization
                                          for calculate a serie of lines not in equal increment ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jeff
                                            I'm very bored for testing your genious trick! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                                            Very Curious I can't have the open of the all menu of a Shadow settings box dialog!
                                            I don't have the same Shadow settings ๐Ÿ˜ž
                                            From your Shadows settings image

                                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=41868&mode=view

                                            Notmore.jpg
                                            And this don't open something more! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (V6 or V7)
                                            Shadow tool is enable on the Toolsbar list menu!

                                            Seems i had this box dialog in the past ๐Ÿ˜’

                                            No more in Style / Edges

                                            The button Activate Shadow dialog seems makes nothing! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                                            No more in selecting curve right click
                                            No more Entity Info, Model info... Cast Shadows, Receive Shadows are enable

                                            Maybe I miss something ๐Ÿ˜• or a plug squize this function ?

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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