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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Align.png

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Like in reality what more simple without any Plugin ? ๐Ÿ’š
        The big one is of course any what you want!
        Groups are any size!
        general.jpg

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • thomthomT Offline
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          @gaieus said:

          I have drawn two guides at 5 (well I used cms but who cares) apart and then tried to rotate them

          What where you snapping to/with?

          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
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            It's in the screenshot. But note that no matter how "close" you seem to snap along a guide (or any edge), it will never be accurate (second screen shot). The cursor is "sliding along" the guide and does no give an accurate inference.

            Gai...

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            • thomthomT Offline
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              @unknownuser said:

              Like in reality what more simple without any Plugin ? ๐Ÿ’š
              The big one is of course any what you want!
              Groups are any size!
              [attachment=0:1cpfqa3m]<!-- ia0 -->general.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1cpfqa3m]

              Wooh! Now I understand. I just didn't notice how you originally aligned the board.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                How ?

                By the simple use of the Rotate tool !!! โ˜€
                And that will be the same for the second rotation ๐Ÿ˜‰
                Just put the Rotation tool on the other group's axe and rotate the view for snap on the good point! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                So you can now draw the 2 little segments for the Push cut! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                Any calculate was tourmented during the movie! ๐Ÿ’š

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                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
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                  @pbacot said:

                  Well if you had a true arc or circle you could find your exact intersection points. But there are no true circles in SU.
                  My 'TrueTangent' tools have various options, in this case you could place a cpoint exactly at the 'true-intersection' of two SUpArcs...


                  AccurateRoatationWithTrueTangents.skp

                  TIG

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                  • pilouP Offline
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    it will never be accurate (second screen shot). The cursor is "sliding along" the guide and does no give an accurate inference.

                    ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                    That will say that any rotation can be made precisely? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                    You can make zoom during the process!
                    And re look my last image, there is green point that indicate that the snap is done! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                    And a red one will be drawn at the end of the last snaping on the group!

                    What do you want more accurate ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                    big_snap.jpg

                    I have verified! Seems you right!
                    That is very ennoyous and want to say that any constructions made with align / Roation are false! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                    Another headache to resolve! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Jeff, I've had to draw diagonals like this a number of times and not found an elegant solution. It's always been via brute force. I forgot about TIG's True Tangents.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
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                        @dave r said:

                        Jeff, I've had to draw diagonals like this a number of times and not found an elegant solution. It's always been via brute force. I forgot about TIG's True Tangents.

                        Pilou's method was quite easy and simple. And also accurate!

                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          @thomthom said:

                          @dave r said:

                          Jeff, I've had to draw diagonals like this a number of times and not found an elegant solution. It's always been via brute force. I forgot about TIG's True Tangents.

                          Pilou's method was quite easy and simple. And also accurate!

                          Yes, his way works, sort of. The second rotation is not perfectly accurate, though. I meant to simply draw it in place.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
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                            @dave r said:

                            The second rotation is not perfectly accurate, though.

                            Seemed to snap perfectly in my test... what am I missing?

                            @dave r said:

                            though. I meant to simply draw it in place.

                            Ah - no post-cropping?

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • oganocaliO Offline
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                              Nice challenge by the way, at first I thought this should be easy but then...

                              You can also perform the rotation as a tangent to the drawn arc, (referencing the vertices on the arc). Of course it is not exact but the angular error is vanishingly small (approximately a^2*t/l ; t,l thickness and length of the rail, a is angular resolution on the arc (total angle/number of segments) in radians)). The final rotation accuracy increases with the square of the number of segments on the arc. After a few hundred segments SU makes the structure ideal at explode.
                              slicer.png
                              Ogan

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
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                                Thomas, see Pilou's last post in this thread.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
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                                  @dave r said:

                                  Thomas, see Pilou's last post in this thread.

                                  Wasn't that related to Gaieus' guideline experiment?

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
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                                    The thing absolutly crazzy is that the Rotation tool
                                    seems accept just the base alignement as only good alignement! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                                    I am totally depited! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
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                                      I get the result he shows in his close up when I try to use his method.

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
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                                        I see the issue now. doh!
                                        ๐Ÿ˜•

                                        ...and I thought I had gotten peace at mind... ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
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                                          So how do you calculate it?

                                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
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                                            arg... I keep wanting to make quide circles... I see how difficult this is with native SketchUp now...

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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