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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      @unknownuser said:

      i'm not quite sure they could give us true arcs in sketchup without entirely changing the way sketchup works.. (how would a cylinder be drawn if there were no segments in the arcs? a nurbs surface? )

      I do nor care for any "real" geometry. Let it me an approximated, segemented surface model.

      What should be here is circular guides. To let us do geometry we learnt in secondary/high school at our teen ages... That's not much but fairly enough.

      Gai...

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @gaieus said:

        @unknownuser said:

        i'm not quite sure they could give us true arcs in sketchup without entirely changing the way sketchup works.. (how would a cylinder be drawn if there were no segments in the arcs? a nurbs surface? )

        I do nor care for any "real" geometry. Let it me an approximated, segemented surface model.
        What should be here is circular guides. To let us do geometry we learnt in secondary/high school at our teen ages... That's not much but fairly enough.
        My Tangent Tools fill the gap [for now] and allow you to find the real intersection points of tangents to arcs, lines and arcs, arcs and arcs etc etc...
        They are not new πŸ˜•

        TIG

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          @unknownuser said:

          When testing I recommend you put the posts further apart as with near square shape deviances might be so small that you think you have a correct solution.

          I don't understand why you don't receive my test? 😲
          All seems perfect! πŸ˜„
          Where is the glitch ? (I am in decimal with maximum precision alowed by SU )

          [attachment=0:1h4o0r1i]<!-- ia0 -->test_jeff.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1h4o0r1i]

          I think presenting the problem in 3D could of been confusing. the direction youre measuring 5 in this latest image is insignificant.. try drawing the 2D version (posted on pg 2 or so)

          dotdotdot

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh πŸ˜„
            Call me Fredo! πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† I was suffering from hallucinations! 😳

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              I just avoid to test the height result! πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’ πŸ˜’ A sort of rotating geometric mirage! πŸ˜„
              2.670000 against 2.470811m 😳

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • gillesG Offline
                gilles
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                I'm back!


                Mini-challenge2v6.skp


                Mini-challenge2v6.png

                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  @gaieus said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  i'm not quite sure they could give us true arcs in sketchup without entirely changing the way sketchup works.. (how would a cylinder be drawn if there were no segments in the arcs? a nurbs surface? )

                  I do nor care for any "real" geometry. Let it me an approximated, segemented surface model.
                  What should be here is circular guides. To let us do geometry we learnt in secondary/high school at our teen ages... That's not much but fairly enough.
                  My Tangent Tools fill the gap [for now] and allow you to find the real intersection points of tangents to arcs, lines and arcs, arcs and arcs etc etc...
                  They are not new πŸ˜•

                  yeah, true tangents seems to be the only viable ruby solution at this time.

                  is it possible to make it more interactive? to where it basically acts like the standard rotate tool but it will snap to an arbitrary point along a line segment? or is something like that impossible to code with the current API?

                  dotdotdot

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    @gilles said:

                    I'm back!

                    and I'm back on my phone now πŸ˜„
                    can't wait to see what you've come up with this time.

                    (in 2 more hours or so)

                    dotdotdot

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                    • andybotA Offline
                      andybot
                      last edited by

                      @gilles said:

                      I'm back!

                      I realized this is not strictly geometrically correct. The line that you are putting the guide perpendicular to will not be at the same angle once it is adjusted to the correct width. There is a slight shift that occurs once you adjust both ends.

                      http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Thx for the V6 ! The figure remember something N πŸ˜‰

                        I will try another idea come back...in...a week...or months... πŸ˜’ πŸ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • M Offline
                          mac1
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                          @tig said:

                          Mac1

                          How do you get the rotated guide pt to snap exactly onto the horizontal top guideline ?

                          The guide point and the guide lines are rotated ( their 3.5 spacing is used to get the intersect point on the post A bottom. The post B top is used for the snap ref. Have to do that since you cannot inference to guide lines. The error can occur on the other end when trying to get the guide point on the line. If you what more accuracy one could use the technique Jeane uses for interpolation to come close to the intersect point when rotating one line into another.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Another method πŸ˜„
                            I believe that the next time that will be 1.000001 m, maybe 1 m πŸ˜‰

                            Jeff1.jpg


                            Test_jeff1.skp

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              I think this plugin-free method works... but it's pretty convoluted...


                              RakingRail.skp

                              TIG

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by

                                πŸ‘

                                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                  jason_maranto
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, that's essentially the same thing I did, but the reason I didn't make a circle is the circle geometry is too imprecise to work accurately in every scenario.

                                  I'll check out TIGs latest when I get to the studio.

                                  Best,
                                  Jason.

                                  I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    This is the simplest non-plugin way I can think of - it's much less hassle than my last attempt...


                                    SimpleRakingRail.skp


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 1.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 2.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 3.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 4.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 5.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 6.jpg


                                    SimpleRakingRailScene 7.jpg

                                    TIG

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                                    • Wo3DanW Offline
                                      Wo3Dan
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                                      @dave r said:

                                      That stuck with me, too. I can't remember who I took to prom, though.

                                      🀣
                                      Your wife will be pleased to read this.

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                                      • mitcorbM Offline
                                        mitcorb
                                        last edited by

                                        Looks like use of a centerline to start is not a good idea?

                                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                        • andybotA Offline
                                          andybot
                                          last edited by

                                          @tig said:

                                          This is the simplest non-plugin way I can think of - it's much less hassle than my last attempt...

                                          That's what gilles came up with.
                                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44972&start=90#p401988

                                          however, there's a slight shift in the angle of the long side, so technically, it's not precisely tangent to the 300mm circle that would be drawn at the start point.

                                          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Another tricky Tig method with always fantasy of temp crutches πŸ˜‰

                                            In theory the more elegant is the rotation method : one circle / one rotation
                                            It's like this that nurbs programms do πŸ˜„

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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