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    Terrain from contours - improve on native 'from contours'?

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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
      last edited by

      I'm "cooking" one up in Sandbox right now. I'll send the file when it gets done. Taking about 10 min. to do "from contours". It's a nice one with hills and saddles.

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        twestover
        last edited by

        Will the plugin work with an already triangulated surface?

        Say I have imported and triangulated a set of XYZ data, and wish to turn it into a solid group like your final product, with vertical sides and a horizontal bottom. Is that possible?

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        • utilerU Offline
          utiler
          last edited by

          Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @utiler said:

            Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

            I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software (I don't know DWG format).

            Thanks in advance

            Fredo

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software

              Except one! SU Itself πŸ˜‰

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • utilerU Offline
                utiler
                last edited by

                Here's a few contour Skippy's, Fredo.

                Survey01 - contours or a regular residential site of about 800sqm with a 15m fall. Contours at 250mm....

                survey01.skp

                Survey02 - contours over a commercial development site of about 2800sqm. Contours at 200mm increments with minimum grad.

                survey02.skp

                purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  Andrew

                  First of all, thanks very much for posting these 2 samples. They are extremely useful for fine tuning the algorithms.

                  I have problem about the calculation of the concave hull for the first one, but here is the second one, in 2 flavors:

                  • the original altitude (which are very flattish)
                  • the exaggerated altitudes which help me to better check the calculations

                  utiler_survey02.skp

                  Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper.png

                  Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper max.png

                  Fredo

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
                    last edited by

                    subscribed... 😲

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
                      last edited by

                      No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                      What you've done with the other one looks good! Can't wait to see how this plugin ends up. I'll see if I can dig out some other survey plans off file and convert them for you.

                      πŸ‘

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @utiler said:

                        No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                        I evolved the algorithm for calculating the concave hull on your complex model and could obtain a result on your model, without any change, here attached.

                        A lot of the problem come from the small terminations hooks in several contours, like illustrated on the picture below
                        TopoShaper small hooks.png

                        The issue with terrain construction is that you need to have a correct hull in order to determine the spatial distribution of the influence of the contours.

                        utiler_survey01.skp

                        TopoShaper Utiler Survey 01.png

                        TopoShaper Utiler Survey 1.gif

                        Fredo

                        PS: I hope to finish a first version in 2-3 weeks time, as I have actually very few moment available currently

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                        • EarthMoverE Offline
                          EarthMover
                          last edited by

                          Can't wait! Thanks Fredo!

                          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                          Content Creator at Skapeup

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                          • utilerU Offline
                            utiler
                            last edited by

                            that is looking very sweet, Fredo!!!! Can't wait as well!!!

                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              here's a topo I just got from a survey company... if you need tests.


                              HANNA-TOPO.dwg

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • EarthMoverE Offline
                                EarthMover
                                last edited by

                                Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.


                                Coleman Topo.skp

                                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  I've gone ahead and started using one of the tests you made of my contour set, Fredo. I don't have a lot to do as yet but it was really clean leveling some areas and "filling" others with Artisan. Maybe we can illustrate the cut and fill on the project with before and AFTER terrains. Thanks!

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    @earthmover said:

                                    Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.

                                    Adam,

                                    Here is what I obtain on the original file. I think however that the contour should be simplified a little bit because there are a lot of edges and it slows down the calculation.

                                    Earthmover Coleman Topo.skp

                                    Toposhaper Earthmover Coleman Topo.png

                                    Fredo

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                                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                                      EarthMover
                                      last edited by

                                      A quick play with the contours. Simplified the curves using Thom's Edge Tools. Then did a From Contours terrain. Then a Drape Cpoints / Triangulate method to retopo. Then opened the high res contour lines in 3ds Max and used the free Populate Terrain plugin to generate a similar terrain. Then brought it back into sketchup and compared the two.


                                      Earthmover Coleman Topo (1).skp

                                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                      • D Offline
                                        dtrarch
                                        last edited by

                                        Terragen2 download πŸ‘
                                        http://planetside.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=170
                                        Someone here was looking for this and here tiz β˜€

                                        dtr

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by

                                          By the way, did anyone try SimuTerra? (see this post)

                                          Fredo

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                                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                            Chris Fullmer
                                            last edited by

                                            Does anyone know if Erez is still maintaining his Simuterra program? We haven't seen him around in ages!

                                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                            All my Plugins I've written

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