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    EarthMover
    last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 02:56

    Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.


    Coleman Topo.skp

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      pbacot
      last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 03:37

      I've gone ahead and started using one of the tests you made of my contour set, Fredo. I don't have a lot to do as yet but it was really clean leveling some areas and "filling" others with Artisan. Maybe we can illustrate the cut and fill on the project with before and AFTER terrains. Thanks!

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        fredo6
        last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 06:58

        @earthmover said:

        Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.

        Adam,

        Here is what I obtain on the original file. I think however that the contour should be simplified a little bit because there are a lot of edges and it slows down the calculation.

        Earthmover Coleman Topo.skp

        Toposhaper Earthmover Coleman Topo.png

        Fredo

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          EarthMover
          last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 16:37

          A quick play with the contours. Simplified the curves using Thom's Edge Tools. Then did a From Contours terrain. Then a Drape Cpoints / Triangulate method to retopo. Then opened the high res contour lines in 3ds Max and used the free Populate Terrain plugin to generate a similar terrain. Then brought it back into sketchup and compared the two.


          Earthmover Coleman Topo (1).skp

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          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
          Content Creator at Skapeup

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            dtrarch
            last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 19:24

            Terragen2 download ๐Ÿ‘
            http://planetside.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=170
            Someone here was looking for this and here tiz โ˜€

            dtr

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              fredo6
              last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 20:11

              By the way, did anyone try SimuTerra? (see this post)

              Fredo

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                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 20:28

                Does anyone know if Erez is still maintaining his Simuterra program? We haven't seen him around in ages!

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                  solo
                  last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 21:44

                  Nice clean results.

                  I have a set of contours that I'd like to compare if you have the time, I used sandbox and got a mess, wondering if this will give a better result. Here is the skp, however I'm wondering if the dwg would not be better.


                  test contours.skp

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                    fredo6
                    last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 23:15

                    @solo said:

                    Nice clean results.

                    I have a set of contours that I'd like to compare if you have the time, I used sandbox and got a mess, wondering if this will give a better result. Here is the skp, however I'm wondering if the dwg would not be better.

                    Here is the result on your model without any change, with the current version of TopoShaper. Grid definition is 60 x 27. I did some tests with a higher definition but cannot post it back because the size of the skp file is bigger than 4 Mb.

                    Note that your contours add up to more than 44,000 edges, with a quite complex concave hull. So it takes a minute to calculate it and there are still some problems on the borders.

                    Solo test contours.skp

                    Solo Test Topo.png

                    Fredo

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                      solo
                      last edited by 14 Feb 2013, 01:05

                      That's very clean, wow, this is awesome.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

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                        pbacot
                        last edited by 14 Feb 2013, 04:44

                        Adam,

                        Very cool working out the c-points method. I didn't realize those capabilities existed.

                        Fredo,

                        Thanks for interface video. Looking great! What you do to program this is so far beyond my ken....

                        Peter

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          fredo6
                          last edited by 14 Feb 2013, 21:46

                          @krisidious said:

                          here's a topo I just got from a survey company... if you need tests.

                          I imported the dwg file and found that most contours were interrupted in their middle. This is a problem for TopoShaper currently, at it allows topological communication between contours.

                          Krisidious Hanna Topo 2.png

                          I just closed the missing links, and here is the result
                          Krisidious Hanna Topo.skp
                          Krisidious Hanna Topo.png

                          Thanks again for this testing model

                          Fredo

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                            Krisidious
                            last edited by 14 Feb 2013, 23:15

                            Yes, Fredo... No problem. That's where the road runs in the property. I just thought you'd like to get samples directly from surveyors. no touch ups. Looks great. can't wait to buy/download this plugin.

                            Edit... actually that is not the road. it's where the grade heights are typed in as text.

                            topo.JPG

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              solo
                              last edited by 11 Mar 2013, 16:56

                              Any news?

                              Sorry about bumping this topic but I'm anxiously awaiting this plugin, hopefully it will be in the store soon.

                              I have a tricky project, I got contours from Civil 3D in fbx format but even though it's not a very large or complicated mesh needed it seems that there are too many edges (think the segments are too much for su) I open it but it crashes sandbox after 7 minutes of thinking.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

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                                fredo6
                                last edited by 11 Mar 2013, 18:45

                                @solo,

                                I am progressing. Actually, I had to build a cleanser module because all the contours I have seen so far have many glitches that prevent correct generation of terrain.

                                For your terrain, just send me the contours and I will see if TopoShaper can handle it.

                                Fredo

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                                  Panga
                                  last edited by 1 May 2013, 07:52

                                  Hi Fredo, Any news about this plugin ?

                                  I found something the other day that do more or less the same thing but from objects or an existing terrain, did you already see or try it ?

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Instant Terrain | Vali Architects | Instant Scripts

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                                  (www.valiarchitects.com)

                                  Regards.

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                                    Hieru
                                    last edited by 1 May 2013, 08:22

                                    I guess you missed this Panga ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    viewtopic.php?f=323&t=52039

                                    www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by 1 May 2013, 15:23

                                      Yep, Fredo finished it and it is wondrous.

                                      But Chucks instant Terrain is also a great tool. It works differently.

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                                        Panga
                                        last edited by 4 May 2013, 09:39

                                        Damn...I was too busy those days...really missed it ! Thanks

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