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    pbacot
    last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 03:41

    I'm "cooking" one up in Sandbox right now. I'll send the file when it gets done. Taking about 10 min. to do "from contours". It's a nice one with hills and saddles.

    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      twestover
      last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 00:03

      Will the plugin work with an already triangulated surface?

      Say I have imported and triangulated a set of XYZ data, and wish to turn it into a solid group like your final product, with vertical sides and a horizontal bottom. Is that possible?

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        utiler
        last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 06:02

        Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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          fredo6
          last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 07:44

          @utiler said:

          Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

          I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software (I don't know DWG format).

          Thanks in advance

          Fredo

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            pilou
            last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 09:31

            @unknownuser said:

            I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software

            Except one! SU Itself πŸ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              utiler
              last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 00:34

              Here's a few contour Skippy's, Fredo.

              Survey01 - contours or a regular residential site of about 800sqm with a 15m fall. Contours at 250mm....

              survey01.skp

              Survey02 - contours over a commercial development site of about 2800sqm. Contours at 200mm increments with minimum grad.

              survey02.skp

              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                fredo6
                last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 21:43

                Andrew

                First of all, thanks very much for posting these 2 samples. They are extremely useful for fine tuning the algorithms.

                I have problem about the calculation of the concave hull for the first one, but here is the second one, in 2 flavors:

                • the original altitude (which are very flattish)
                • the exaggerated altitudes which help me to better check the calculations

                utiler_survey02.skp

                Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper.png

                Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper max.png

                Fredo

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                  Krisidious
                  last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 22:36

                  subscribed... 😲

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    utiler
                    last edited by 3 Feb 2013, 01:51

                    No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                    What you've done with the other one looks good! Can't wait to see how this plugin ends up. I'll see if I can dig out some other survey plans off file and convert them for you.

                    πŸ‘

                    purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      fredo6
                      last edited by 12 Feb 2013, 23:04

                      @utiler said:

                      No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                      I evolved the algorithm for calculating the concave hull on your complex model and could obtain a result on your model, without any change, here attached.

                      A lot of the problem come from the small terminations hooks in several contours, like illustrated on the picture below
                      TopoShaper small hooks.png

                      The issue with terrain construction is that you need to have a correct hull in order to determine the spatial distribution of the influence of the contours.

                      utiler_survey01.skp

                      TopoShaper Utiler Survey 01.png

                      TopoShaper Utiler Survey 1.gif

                      Fredo

                      PS: I hope to finish a first version in 2-3 weeks time, as I have actually very few moment available currently

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                        EarthMover
                        last edited by 12 Feb 2013, 23:30

                        Can't wait! Thanks Fredo!

                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                        Content Creator at Skapeup

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                          utiler
                          last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 01:15

                          that is looking very sweet, Fredo!!!! Can't wait as well!!!

                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                            Krisidious
                            last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 02:48

                            here's a topo I just got from a survey company... if you need tests.


                            HANNA-TOPO.dwg

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              EarthMover
                              last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 02:56

                              Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.


                              Coleman Topo.skp

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                              Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 03:37

                                I've gone ahead and started using one of the tests you made of my contour set, Fredo. I don't have a lot to do as yet but it was really clean leveling some areas and "filling" others with Artisan. Maybe we can illustrate the cut and fill on the project with before and AFTER terrains. Thanks!

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 06:58

                                  @earthmover said:

                                  Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.

                                  Adam,

                                  Here is what I obtain on the original file. I think however that the contour should be simplified a little bit because there are a lot of edges and it slows down the calculation.

                                  Earthmover Coleman Topo.skp

                                  Toposhaper Earthmover Coleman Topo.png

                                  Fredo

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                                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 16:37

                                    A quick play with the contours. Simplified the curves using Thom's Edge Tools. Then did a From Contours terrain. Then a Drape Cpoints / Triangulate method to retopo. Then opened the high res contour lines in 3ds Max and used the free Populate Terrain plugin to generate a similar terrain. Then brought it back into sketchup and compared the two.


                                    Earthmover Coleman Topo (1).skp

                                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                      dtrarch
                                      last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 19:24

                                      Terragen2 download πŸ‘
                                      http://planetside.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=170
                                      Someone here was looking for this and here tiz β˜€

                                      dtr

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                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 20:11

                                        By the way, did anyone try SimuTerra? (see this post)

                                        Fredo

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                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by 13 Feb 2013, 20:28

                                          Does anyone know if Erez is still maintaining his Simuterra program? We haven't seen him around in ages!

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                          All my Plugins I've written

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